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| Karl Harrison seems to be doing a great job at Batley and the word is he will be Halifax next year. You should have never got rid of him.
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| Well over 12 hours since the end of the match and I am still mad with what i witnessed last night, ratchford last season was a brilliant player, the last two matches he has not been 10% the player he was, he looks like hes never played rugby before. The others just stood and watched the kicker nobody tried to close him down or put any pressure on what so ever, it was like the players don't want to play for the SLUG. Anyone notice how late the SLUG was getting to the dressing rooms at half time and how early he came out, but what happened in that short space of time, because towards the break we were getting back into it, then the talk, and straight after the break they score. Other coaches must p155 theirselves laughing when hes on Sky talking about this teams tactics being wrong etc etc, We are saying we have not got much money, neither have the Welsh club, Wakefield, possibly Castleford but their coaches get how of a lot out of the players in their charge, we get very poor value for money from the SLUG and I bet as I type he is already driving to a Sky Location, perhaps last night he was in the wrong box and should have been at The Dale Winton Stadium in Pietown. Some say we can'y afford to let him go, I say can we afford to keep him? We missed a trick in getting rid of Jimmy Lowes, I know he had a go at the fans, but that is passion, something that the SLUG totally lacks. I would suggest that the SLUG is on more money then the coaches of the clubs I have mentioned above and as such he is crippling the club and not providing anything to justify the wage, infact paying him nothing would be too much. Noble was available for much of last season yet we carried on with the SLUG who has had 3 years to mould a time not 3 months, I watched the Welsh team against Leeds and noticed that they played mostly up the middle and left space on the wings. What was the gameplan last night we tried to play them up the middle and did not exploit the space. What did Noble do he spread his team out to use that space and they scored 7 SEVEN tries 5 from exactly the same play. We need a complete change at the club with regards coaching, because now the SLUG will have us forth on his to do list, of 1) Sky, 2) England Coaching, 3) food, and finally 5) Salford, i forgot about about the BEEB at number 4.
So who do we get for new coach? a very hard question, who is available? do we take a chance on a young Aussie, because at least they will come in with new ideas and tactics, because the SLUG's coaching manual was the work of Moses its so old.
Or another TV celeb' Jonathan Woss will be available shortly, or Alan Titchmarsh seems to pick things up and can grow new talent, or Katie Price who would sort out the Knockers in the club, or a Celeb' Chef? John Wilkinson has got to see that the longer the SLUG is at the helm It will be a complete waste of money building the new ground, because what he puts out on the field is driving fans away, last night there were long term fans who went into the club long before the end because they like me were too upset to carry on watching our club being raped by the SLUG.
SACK THE SLUG
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| so who would we get to coach us then......PLEASE do not say Alker
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| I thought last night's performance was up there with the worst I've seen - and I've been going now for sixty years!
I don't think you can fault the players' efforts. Those seventeen on duty tried but they lacked organisation and a game plan that could have worked. Someone said to me last night that we didn't have a Plan B. I told him I didn't think we had a Plan A!!
Defensively we were clueless. We gave Crusaders ten metres at every play the ball and stood still most of the time to give them free yards. When we had the ball they moved forward quickly in a line as we played the ball so we could not build up momentum and make yards. Why are we not organised like that? That is down to bad coaching. The smaller pack gave the bigger men space and time. A recipe for disaster.
At no time was any thought given to counter-acting the high kick to our right side defence. It needed a bigger man out there to try to counteract the threat that led to five tries I think. We had Sibbit available on the bench - not that he's a first choice centre or wing - but after conceding two tries there it would have made sense for some attempt to be made to eliminate that threat - but no plan was put into action. Again that's down to the coach.
Our kicking game was awful. rarely did we turn their full back; our chase was usually enthusiastic but lacked numbers often - again something the coach should rectify. Perhaps the kickers practise regularly - but extra work needs to be done to improve them - and quickly. Perhaps Holdsworth should be in more of a half back role and controlling play from the centre. I would like to see him paired at half back with Ratchford.
If our small pack continues to play one man rugby against bigger teams, averaging thirty metres in every set of six against the opposition's sixty metres then we are always going to be on the back foot. Give the ball some air some of the time please. We could at least try to play rugby, but until the pack starts to dominate other packs we are in trouble. Crusaders did the basics more quickly than us ( not very difficult I admit ) and as a unit. Like any other Brian Noble team they dominated the tackle and the area around the play the ball and we were always second best.
I worry about the rest of the season if Shaun Macrae stays in charge.
I'll be at Headingley on Friday night. Last year I took a photograph of the scoreboard at the end of the match. Somehow I don't think I'll be doing the same next Friday.
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| Quote: Bigpev " it was like the players don't want to play for the SLUG.'"
Spot on... I was told just that by 3 of the players 2 days before the start of pre-season training. I promise you 100% that this isn't something a bloke in the pub... or a taxi driver told me... it came direct to me from 3 first team regulars whilst chatting at a charity event.
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| As I asked last season (and the season we went down) could someone please tell me why the forwards aim at the biggest group of defenders when attacking and not for gaps?
Don't tell me it is to tire the defenders (substitution ruins that plan)
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tell me that the "ruck" is so disorganised we can cause a break (I've counted that result on one hand all last season).
Simple question.
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| Quote: LoyalFan "Spot on... I was told just that by 3 of the players 2 days before the start of pre-season training. I promise you 100% that this isn't something a bloke in the pub... or a taxi driver told me... it came direct to me from 3 first team regulars whilst chatting at a charity event.'"
So we're back in the same situation as we were before Karl Harrison got sacked?
I really don't get this whole attitude of players not wanting to play for the coach. Surely you play for the love of the game,because it's your job and because it matters to you how you're perceived as a player? It's what they're paid to do after all, for god's sake.
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| Quote: LoyalFan "Spot on... I was told just that by 3 of the players 2 days before the start of pre-season training. I promise you 100% that this isn't something a bloke in the pub... or a taxi driver told me... it came direct to me from 3 first team regulars whilst chatting at a charity event.'"
Here we go AGAIN!!!!! Now this really f**ks me off. The little children in the team decide they don't like McRae so decide not to play for him. How f**king dare they! It not only shows a huge disrespect to McRae ( even if he is a crap coach) but also to SJW and to us who pay to watch them. If they don't want to play for him then tell them to f**koff somewhere else.
This mentality is PATHETIC!
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| I don't suppose you fancy naming them do you LF?
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| Round and round in ing circles nothing ever changes!!!, 3,400 fans which will be 2,400 home fans next home game, i 100% understand why the people who don't go choose not to, i can quite honestly say that is one of the worst performances Ive ever witnessed, Apart from Holdsworth not one player deserved to be on a winning side. I could go on all day slagging us of but ill save you the bother. I can now see why an outsider looking in at Salford would not want us getting a franchise, team, support who offer nothing but a laugh to the Rugby League.
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| Quote: Fungus The Muffin Man "I don't suppose you fancy naming them do you LF?'"
I don't think that would be advisable. To be honest, I don't see what was to be gained from posting it in the first place. All it will probably really achieve is [ip[/iissing people off even further.
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| Last night was my first game back after a season away, I brought my 3 yr old daughter and my niece to sample RL for the first time. How bored were they, apart from the obvious lack of passion and entertainment on the pitch, there was no atmosphere, the crowd was poor and just a general souless feeling about the place. Ive been a salford fan all my life and havent gone as much as I shouldve over the past few years but I can see why the crowds are dwindling season upon season.
Dont get me wrong I dont have the answers, maybe the new stadium will help maybe it wont, but for a start youve got to look at your coach from the teams point of view how long do you have to put up with tactless play and poor results before you get sacked?
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| Quote: LoyalFan "Spot on... I was told just that by 3 of the players 2 days before the start of pre-season training. I promise you 100% that this isn't something a bloke in the pub... or a taxi driver told me... it came direct to me from 3 first team regulars whilst chatting at a charity event.'"
I don't suppose you had the balls to tell them what a ridiculous comment it was, and how they should be embarrassed about it did you?
Nah, didn't think so ...
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| Quote: Hillbilly_Red "As I asked last season (and the season we went down) could someone please tell me why the forwards aim at the biggest group of defenders when attacking and not for gaps?
Don't tell me it is to tire the defenders (substitution ruins that plan)
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tell me that the "ruck" is so disorganised we can cause a break (I've counted that result on one hand all last season).
Simple question.'"
Totally agree HR.
Pointless and v boring.
OK we have a small pack so why dont we have a coach who can instil players to run wide into gaps a la Reg Houldsworth last night - line deeper - so they are running on the ball. Our tactic should be to run the opposition forwards breathless rather than constant barging.
Its the Australian way though isnt it? Tedious fayre.
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| Quote: Early Bath ".......
OK we have a small pack so why dont we have a coach who can instil players to run wide into gaps a la Reg Houldsworth last night - line deeper - so they are running on the ball. Our tactic should be to run the opposition forwards breathless rather than constant barging.
Its the Australian way though isnt it? Tedious fayre.'"
Agreed - this season, amazingly we have some pace in the backs so why oh why were we playing up the middle being outmuscled instead of swinging it wide?
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