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Quote: BigT "Pie boards are full of how we have been shafted on this deal. Since we have paid the 'compo Hull wouldn't'


They only see it from their point of view. Here's some examples from said fans...

'Why would he ever want to leave Wigan? Is he mad?'
'He'll fade into obscurity now...'
'He can't possibly fulfill his potential now he's not at Wigan.'
'He'll just sulk at Salford now.'
'He'll still be homesick down the road.'
'This sale has really derailed his chances of bringing together Israel and Palestine.'

etc etc

The point being that fans are always full of ideas about why, but very few are are actually in charge of facts.

The way I see it is if Harris is wants him for the season, MK pays a nominal fee (Pocket change as we know), and Taylor gets game time in a season he wasn't going to at Wigan. Everyone's a winner here. There's no losers. Wigan get a fee and offload a wage and player who wants away. Salford get the extra prop they want. If he is Hull bound at the end of the season then they get a fit player for no fee.

I fail to see who's shafted here.

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Quote: SaleSlim "Was it Scott Taylor that scored a 60m try against us 3/4 seasons back at The Willows or am I getting him mixed up with Rhys Lovegrove? I remember thinking at the time "f*ck me, this kid is quick for a prop"!
FWIW, a Pie fan in work seems to think we're getting their best front rower. Young, British and plenty of ability... he'll do for me!'"


His 1st full season was 2011 I think , he was responsible for Hull KR's win against us in April 2012 where he walzed over for two short pass tries in the last 10 minutes.

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Quote: TheButcher "They only see it from their point of view. Here's some examples from said fans...

'Why would he ever want to leave Wigan? Is he mad?'
'He'll fade into obscurity now...'
'He can't possibly fulfill his potential now he's not at Wigan.'
'He'll just sulk at Salford now.'
'He'll still be homesick down the road.'
'This sale has really derailed his chances of bringing together Israel and Palestine.'

etc etc
...

I fail to see who's shafted here.'"


and there's more ..
Quote: TheButcher ""joined the less professional environments of Salford and Hull."

"definitely expect him to fade back into obscurity playing for Salford and later Hull FC"

"Taylor will struggle getting into the England team playing for a club ( Hull FC ) that may be in the second division when he joins them"

"Career suicide"

"His form was appalling for major parts of last year and now he's ended up having to sign for Salford"

"It may be easier for him to stand out in a poor team"

"presumably is that he'll carry on sulking, only now on Salford's time rather than ours."'"


I think when it comes to feeling shafted by Wigan , I've a guess Parramatta would be in that queue before us , ( Paid up for Mossop, Paid to fix both his shoulders up , plays three games then walks straight back to pieland.)
after Phil Bailey & Feka's 1st season , if Taylor makes it onto the pitch and lasts more than 10 minutes a spell he'll be classed as one of Salford better signings from our beloved neighbours

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Amazed Pies don't want him........definitely the best loan signing we ever had from them, TOP player. Is he definitely returning to Hull KR in 2016, or is it that he wants to move back to Hull, and play for a club 'nearer home' ?

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Why are Wigan fans getting excited over the undisclosed fee we've paid for Taylor? Do they think it's anything more than a few grand really.

Great signing though, even if it is for just one-year before he joins Hull. Big talent.

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The interesting thing could arise if Salford stay in the Super League and Hull FC miss out in 2016.

Long shot but Taylor no doubt signed a SL contract and maybe becomes a Free Agent - like Westerman & Sneyd.

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Not seen much of Scott Taylor but people from Hull Wigan and Huddersfield fans think he's a great player. Just noticed that Mandy Koukash on twitter saying Marwan after one more player

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Why would we need to pay a fee to Wigan? He signed for 2 seasons with an option for a 3rd so surely it is up to him if he stays for that 3rd season?

I can't see anyone in SL having a better pack than us next season, just hope that HH, Hock and Hauraki stay on the field together as I can only see them destroying other teams out wide.

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Quote: Michigan red "Why would we need to pay a fee to Wigan? He signed for 2 seasons with an option for a 3rd so surely it is up to him if he stays for that 3rd season?'"

As I understand it Wigan activated the 3rd year, presumably to stop him doing one to Hull for nothing.

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I actually admire the way Lenagan does business in regards to player contracts , the use of the optional last year can presumably activated by either party. and you'd think players agents would have got wise to it by now.

They activated it in relation to Gareth Hock , Harrison Hansen, Darrell Goulding and now Scott Taylor.
Clubs invest years in getting players to a position when they become admired by other teams so they are protecting their investment , the optional year also is insurance to players if the they want to stay on and the clubs have other ideas so it works both ways

They also held out for transfer fees for under contract players Sam Tomkins & Lee Mossop when they fancied a sun tan and a go in the NRL.
They also insist in a 1st refusal clause when they return to SL

They paid up mid season for Matty Smith, when it could have been easier to watch our demise & pick him up close season.

If you compare Wigans way of doing business with the way Leeds acquired ' homesick ' Joel Moon

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Top signing! Chuffed with this! This guys England quality and when was the last time we had a front row knocking on the England door? Not sure why some people are bothered about the length of contract? I'm only bothered about next season! Welcome Scott and show the pies that ur not a robot and express itself! Getting a pretty good squad together now, looks like hood and theo will take hooking duties as thought this would be an area where we would spend much of salary cap! Started getting excited nowicon_smile.gif

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Good signing, sorry to see him go... Just hope that whatever affected his form is behind him...

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Quote: Early Bath "The interesting thing could arise if Salford stay in the Super League and Hull FC miss out in 2016.

Long shot but Taylor no doubt signed a SL contract and maybe becomes a Free Agent - like [iWesterman[/i & Sneyd.'"


I don't think we got Westerman for free, we paid a fee.

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Quote: stouffer "As I understand it Wigan activated the 3rd year, presumably to stop him doing one to Hull for nothing.'"


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Quote: Wilde 3 "I don't think we got Westerman for free, we paid a fee.'"


correct mate, we paid £125,000 for westerman. wigan wanted big money for taylor aswell which we wouldn't pay for a year deal buy out

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