I think you might want to brush-up on something called OPERATIONAL RULES.

"Salford were deemed to be in breach of operational rules B1.1 (general competition rules - laws of the game); B2:4 (match day operations manual (section D15 - interchange); and D1.8 (a) (serious or persistent breach of the RFL operational rules)."

Mistakes from referee's like the Ganson incident or even missing a high tackle like Tansey's don't come into it I'm afraid and pitch dimensions certainly don't.

Isnt it odd that only Cas & Widnes Forumites have the slightest interest in this subject? You know the type of people - `Finger waggers` to make a point. All unnecessary & time to move on.

Just a small point of order, Salford, (the club), didn't deliver a new stadium and further appear to be makng a hash of fulfilling their obligations, post delivery by others. All be it based on an 'over enthusiastic' set of figures from your previous set up. Ah but never mind that doesn't count, yes that's right it was the the old regime.......

Oh and I don't understand why you guy's (the club not you posters, Butcher is that ok?) appealed. You must have other things to sort out and should have moved on, it was yesterday's news.

One of the best posts I've ever read on RL fans. You sum things up absolutely perfectly.

But now we have J20, what do you think this thread is about?

You are correct Tigerade, non of that matters. My post was designed to show how stupid and petty your post about cheating was. However, what it further illustrates is that in this nonsense of a game you get punished more for making a silly inadvertant mistake than you do for trying to knock someones head off. Barmy!!!

And who has delivered most other new stadiums? Answer: Supermarkets because new stadia unlocks the land for them (Fact) I'm sure Salford would have gone this same route but for the big bully boys at Peel threatening to object and create indefinite delays to anything they aren't involved in.

Strange how the RFL seem to consider briefly fielding 14 players as serious an offence as previous salary cap breaches from other clubs.

Might be something to do with us occupying the 3rd tier of SL ? Why would Wigan and Leeds fans be interested in this subject ? It doesn't concern their club.

Because you appealed. Had you had accepted your punishment as other sides did it wouldn't have been an issue. Hence you can't compare the 2. Nor can people day this now sets a precedent. It only sets a precedent to clubs who appeal and that appeal is then rejected.

Good to see Uncle 'I wish Salford all the best despite regularly making negative posts about them' Rico back on the forum.

I was at the game but I did not notice the 14 players on the field at the time;nor did the officials ( ref and touch judges ) or the Sky commentary team.Immediately after the game I spoke with the one person in the stadium who did make the observation.
There is nothing on the SCR website or in the RFL release - or other media outlets - which inform me about...
1) Which player entered the field to make the 14 - Before it was apparently Jordan James,now it is apparently Vic Mauro.The player who should have left the field,I think it has been agreed,was Darrell Griffin.
2) Is there an individual at fault or is there more than one person to blame ? If so who are those people ?
3) What alteration to the processes and procedures have now been taken to prevent a reoccurrence ?
4) As it appears SCR appealed against the fine ie.the amount of the fine,how can the RFL not just increase the fine if they consider it wrong to appeal ? Is their a soccer club/player who has appealed against a ban for a number of games had his club docked points or fined ? It should only be a relevant increase to what the original sanction was.
Had SCR been docked 1 point and then appealed and lost,the further increased penalty could then,justifiably,be increased to more than one point.
The RFL just make it up as they go along and as they offer no explanation to the mugs who pay to watch the sport then it does not surprise me in the least that people find alternative ways to spend their time and their money.

The precedent is set.Off course it is.That was set at 10K fine for the offence.The fact that Salford appealed gave the RFL the chance to vary the original punishment.So for any club committing a similar offence it has to be a 10k fine but if you appeal it becomes 5k and the loss of points.

The more worrying aspect of all this is the total shambolic way the RFL has handled the whole situation.

From Salfords point of view why was there such a discrepancy in punishments between two similar offences,the other being the £100 fine handed to Saints.To hand out one of the largest fines ever dished out just smacks of victimisation to many Salford fans.Where was the RFL appointed official in all of this who obviously made a mess of things on the side lines.
By imposing such a huge fine the RFL were for all intents and purposes making an appeal inevitable especially when the Saints fine was factored into things.An appeal was made out a sense of fairness.Salford accepted they had broke the rules albeit unintentionally and would have accepted their punishment without a word if it had been seen to be a fair and just one.A 10K fine was none of those things.

From the Cas perspective you surely must be more concerned with why were the points not awarded to you once they were deducted from Salford.Again a precedent is being set that in years to come may come back to haunt the RFL in a big way.What happens when the new layout of the SL system is implemented.
Situations could arise where the clubs could say,Throw on a 14th man,we can take the 10K fine but we wont lose the points unless we appeal.Those points could be the difference between relegation or promotion.
Totally ridiculous situation the RFL has now created.

And all this confusion created by an organisation that gave away the TV rights to one of the highest rated sports in the UK,for next to nothing and then cant even find a Main Sponsor for SL after the whole Stobbart fiasco.Thats money lost that should have been going to our clubs.
Thats our wonderful RFL in a nutshell for you.Incompetent.

Happy to be here again, it's hard to stay away as you guys are always making the news these days, just the way you like it.

I was enjoying reading about the opinions on the fine/appeal etc when one of your 'own' had the temerity to suggest that the RFL should start looking closely at those clubs that had failed to deliver on their new grounds' promises, a bit of a quantum leap that I just couldn't resist responding to

the fine has gone up by 5000 plus 2 points it pays to keep stum and not cheat