On a positive note, we've gone from bottom to marginally worse than Wire in three games. Sts to finish too with Walsh m.o.s.

I know all you lot are thinking you are going to lift it, but on tonight's evidence Salford are light years away from winning the Grand Final.

An owner full of hot air, a coach who only ever has one plan and is past it and a hugely overrated side full of OAPs...not a good combination, all told.

And I don't see it getting any better.


Salford are not a big club.

Personally before a ball was passed this season I'd be over the moon with top 6 finish!!

With the politest possible respect, I know saints are getting a lot of credit from various places, but it was far from a polished performance from us. Lots of errors in the 15-20 mark allowed you guys to steady the ship as it were. But we never really had much structure in attack. I would be very upset if we were still playing like that in August.

Our defence was very good, but you didn't give us a lot to defend. The only time I felt uncomfortable was when hock had the ball, and each run had diminishing returns.

Why it was a no try is beyond me.

Fair point but you have to understand it's the same for both clubs. Don't forget Salford have 14 new players who are still gelling!! . . . And 3 big players who were out injured tonight. Saints played what was in front of them and played very well IMO.

Fair point. Line speed seemed to be your biggest problem from a saints point of view - you'd either send 3 guys charging at 1st receiver, and we simply passed around you, or you gave us all the space in the world!

We had one very big player out

You keep trying to troll when almost no Salford fans are making wild predictions.

Good thread,Wirecutter,

It hasn't calmed me down because I have definitely been to Hell tonight,watching that !

I like St Helens,for a whole host of reasons and I congratulate them.

I must remind myself that Nathan Brown has been there far longer than Brian Noble has been at Salford,and Nathan Brown got off to a very bad start last year.

So much so that Mr McManus got himself involved - rlStoryrl

Losing 1 game in February means absolutely nothing.

Well done Stuart Howarth for his last tackle option with 2 minutes remaining.

Credit where it's due.

I've not read though anything.wil give proper analysis tomorrow. As things stand in disgusted

Saints were great.
We were blown away at first but then we defended exceptionally well for the rest of the first half.
Their third try was the killer and it was downhill after that.
Didn't understand the kicking game at all. That's Smith's strength usually.
Tasi and Hansen were surprisingly quiet and,apart from Hock,our attack was very weak.

That Saints team will put bigger scores past better teams who have been together longer.

Saints would have probably beaten anyone on their performance. It was a massive arm wrestle the whole match and we had no spark in attack which was the difference. I'm not overly bothered. The team never stopped trying and will get better and better.