Since Forever Reds was founded there have been many times when the Chairman, Vice Chairman , other directors, Chief Executive and the various coaches have attended meetings with the members, not in the last 18 months/two years or so although Matt Parish did make an appearance during his short stint with us, Steve Simms was also in attendance.

There was talk, at the time when the new stadium was proposed, of a definite formal link between the supporters and the board but it hasn't got off the ground.

When I mention to friends who support other RL clubs or other sporting clubs they are amazed when I explain how you can approach the Chairman , other directors etc in an informal way and virtually discuss anything to do with the club (within reason) whenever you bump into them.

My last discussion with the powers that be was at an Under 20s match and myself and others chatted about various things to do with the club.

Not many Chairmen are as approachable as ours and clearly in the last 12/18 months he has been focusing his mind on other matters which is understandable.

You are correct in that people can be too approachable and what they say is sometimes taken out of context and on occasions is in the MEN the following day, usually barking up the wrong tree.

Don't forget the Forever Reds AGM 18th June Chandos Club 7.30pm

Original Salford City Red: Thank you for your informed feed back & I will be attending the AGM.
I suppose I see us fans going round in circles & it seems to me bad news or badly informed news sends this forum into meltdown & any positives seem to always be frowned on.
I am not trying to create a rosy picture but sometimes I feel an informed fans view might address the forum with more balanced debates.

so next time we all go anti-sale they are going to kill us i think we need to remember this



Us fans ask the club to be ambitious, show forward thinking, be positive for me they did all of this when moving to barton, it seems they rolled the dice and it didnt come in, is it their fault? for trying to do it on a shoe string budget? is it us the fans fault for not promoting enough in the area though friends / work colleges? ive said it before id rather us go out in a blaze of glory trying to succeed rather than slip, slide and stumble and fall like Swinton forever looking back and saying "remember the glory days station road ect" playing infront of 200 people




I agree with Ave it we are forever indebt to JW, HC and the rest of the board who continue to put their hands in their pockets to keep our boat afloat, hopefully now with the terms changed we will become more of opportunity for somebody to invest and take us to the next level financially.
I do feel we would be a better investment opporunity than lets say Bradford / wakefield / Castleford so hopefully this interest will become more solid.

i do feel that if an investor is found JW and co will sell us to a person who they feel have the clubs best interest at heart rather than just throw us at the person who comes nearest

Unfortunately if / when this happens and we do get a new investor i feel we will lose that "touchy feely" relationship us fans have with JW and co.
To be fair since our move to Barton ive seen JW once and that was IN the corridoor on the way out of the corporate bit so reaily the tranformation from local rugby club where you can talk to our chairman / directors and chew the fat about stuff to Business where any kind of communication is though the club website / club shop has started already.

But we do want the club to be run in a more proffessional way so can we moan about such events taking place?

Im hoping that a new investor comes in realises who is good at what they do and who isnt and fills the club with people who can take us to the next level in every aspect, it will cost money but if we are coming from such a low level financially perhaps it wont break our new bank

Sadly the club over recent times have decided only to communicate with fans if it is what they want to hear. Any sort of genuine questions/concerns are met with entirely the wrong attitude. A recent post on here about the club shop being closed after a game was dismissed by the club staff on facebook as being 'easy to post lies on an internet forum.' After being questioned further, 2 pages later the same club staff admitted their had been a mix up with a set of keys going missing. There have been quite a few similar instances where it is hard to believe club officials would reply to supporters in such an amateur fashion. Can't see any proper dialogue with fans being set up anytime soon, as their are too many uncertainties which the club would rather keep quiet than have to answer to.

I think communication with the club is far better than it has been for.....well forever, but you are right they do seem to dodge the big questions which need answering but you have to remember that anything they say on the offical facebook page is just like a press release reaily, they play everything with a straight bat and im glad reaily.

Its come along way with two way communication with the club and the fans and us fans do get to know about events which the club are running in the community but its a long road ahead but it is not impossible, i dont think us fans or the club are at a stage where they could hold a facebook questions and answers session with DT for example without it turning into a witch hunt unfortunatley.

The good thing is that with this line of communication open the club have nowhere to hide and us fans can ask questions that arnt designed to trip the club up in anyway, you could also say that now the club has the facility to communicate to its fans and ask for opinions of stuff we can say what us fans would want and it doesnt take off and become a success we cant blame the club for trying only ourselfs for not backing up our requests.

When or if will they give us this exciting news are as always rumours as normal ruin the expectation this should have come out by now if it was good news from the club. Or are these rumours coming out just to keep supporters optimistic

The news is out. . . .

In the last three editions of the main Rugby League newspaper there has been a story published stating we have banned by the RFL from signing any new players due to financial difficulties. There was a story in this week saying the ban has now been lifted.

In the last few days it has been reported in the press that we have signed a deal cutting our rent at Barton which we help us stave off, or at least postpone, financial meltdown. Salford have made no comment whatsoever on these stories. When the Sale deal was announced we learnt more about the workings of Barton in one press release from their club than we had done in the whole process from Salford. Whenever there is any news, good, bad or indifferent Salford just bunker down and refuse to comment. The North Korean government are more forthcoming with public comment. No wonder people on here say the rumour mill always goes out of control if people aren't being given any official information.

But at least we've got Facebook where people can post inane comments and the club can publish polls based on an incorrect league table taken from our own website.

At least in North Korea they can get to the crowds out to watch dross.
On a more serious note, whatever happens to JW the club need to look at the management structure and who currently occupy these positions, to go forward a club needs a dynamic leadership team working across all aspects of the business. We at Salford do not have this and for all the money put in by JW and the board members if we don't get that dynamism some the club will go to the wall through the decisions made by these people, a corporate uniform might be a start so that the staff in the customer facing roles look smart and business like, small things can make a difference when companies come along and the club is looking for sponsorship and investment.

You've decided to ignore everything else I've posted on the subject, haven't you? And for pity's sake Bobby, can you please stop suggesting that Salford supporters may have a hand in things not working out at the club? No matter what happens is always "up to us, the fans" rather than those that are paid to run, promote and manage the club.




Communication is still crap. I've asked questions on there and been ignored and I'm not the only one. I'm sure you also remember the 'discussion' with the McNallys where I was basically told that Facebook would be the only official communication route from here on in and if people were really that bothered about keeping in touch they'd join FB just for that purpose. So bugger anyone who doesn't want a FB account, doesn't know how to work a FB account or who just doesn't use a computer and/or the internet. That's hardly improving things and opening up lines of communication.

Good post.

PS. The more you think about it Salford RL is very similar to North Korea. A supreme leader (Wilky) who has offered little apart from fragile stability yet is adored by the people in a strange personality cult.

Does Wilky love Matt Damon too

If that is exiting news i would hate to see billiant news