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| Quote: theredshed "Not a happy ship if today's Sun article is anything to go by. Although it could just be mischievous reporting.
That reporter sounds frustrated just like every other non Salford fan about Koukash stating in the press that we'll be signing world class players, we know August the 9th is the date but I think everyone else is getting about frustrated and want the Doc do something.
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| Not sure that I understand the panic.
This season was always a write off,just a bloody miracle we started it.
What is it,7 or 8 games to go and we just need to bite the bullet and put up with them .
Better players were never going to be signed during the season and there was no point signing inferior players just because they were available.
Keep the faith,support the coaching team and trust the good doctor.
Fingers crossed that the signings make us sit up and notice !
Otherwise we do need to worry
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| On a lighter note
Best Quote from last night :-
Hi Brian - Bad result Eh , but at least nobody Died
" They will when I get hold of them tomorrow morning "
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| Quote: Bonita Red "Not sure that I understand the panic.
This season was always a write off,just a bloody miracle we started it.
What is it,7 or 8 games to go and we just need to bite the bullet and put up with them .
Better players were never going to be signed during the season and there was no point signing inferior players just because they were available.
Keep the faith,support the coaching team and trust the good doctor.
Fingers crossed that the signings make us sit up and notice !
Otherwise we do need to worry'"
Thing is with Koukash's statements regarding signings it must of come from Noble originally?. I mean how does Koukash know who's world class or international standard he's only been in the sport 5 months.
It's Noble who's been sourcing players it's Noble who's shut the door on signings for this year for reasons stated in the press that there's no real quality players left to take us forward in the 2013 season, and last but not Least I think Noble is playing players like mcgoldrick and foran in positions not suited to them for a reason I think he knows they both stink but by constantly playing them and letting them show their selves up it's giving him a reason to get rid of them based on bad performances, I mean if mcgoldrick was say playing in the second rows and had more solid performances than poor then there would be no case to get rid same with foran, hes letting them tie the noose around their own neck instead of doing it for them, same can be said for other players in the squad aswel.
To Noble the rest of this year is a early 2014 pre season project let the crap come to the surface get rid and keep the ones that have potential and are worth keeping to take the club forward.
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| Quote: Michigan red "Just read the following quote from Noble on the club site
"But technically they kicked far better than we did. We got a lesson on how to kick the ball tonight. The way we are finishing our sets is killing us".
If kicking is all important why leave out Snyed our best kicker from hand, OK he may be the best of a bad bunch but at least he is the best kicker.
I had to listen to the first half and get on a plane and it was even more pain for me, we seemed to ushering Wakefield through all the time. One thing that was constantly mentioned was the sheer size of the Wakefield pack in comparison to ours so think Noble will shortly have to revert to type and get some big units on board (I'd go for Ewan Dowes until the end of the season as he's a pack leader).
One plus was that Adam Neal was co commentator on BBC and was pretty decent at it, let's hope that SKY take note of these things for future reference.'"
Wakefield have a very big pack with only Washbrook and Kirmond on the smaller size. Wilkes, Amor, Poore and Ali and perhaps Mariano are all over 17 stone - didn't see a Salford player who looked that size.
Size isn't everything but it still hurts and when a big pack wants to beat a small pack the result is usually waht happened last night. You certainly need some grunt up front.
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| Nevermind Brian Noble, I feel sorry for myself after sitting through that last night!
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| Quote: Mike Ehrmantraut "Nevermind Brian Noble, I feel sorry for myself after sitting through that last night!'"
Only 9 more games left of watching crap! Then hopefully the new Red Devils will give the super league "hell" sorry couldn't resist.
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| Quote: theredshed "Not a happy ship if today's Sun article is anything to go by. Although it could just be mischievous reporting.
The sun is only good for one thing,and its not reading.
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| Quote: Bonita Red "Are the chuckle brothers contracted for next year or will we need to pay them off,to return to Oz?'"
Nothing personal but Mauro, Foran and McGoldrick have all proved to be shocking signings. Vievers should be acknowledged for making the worse signings in superleague history. I think his sacking was justified on making these signings alone regardless of poor results.
The former Manly reserves arrived unfit and have been given plenty time now but they are simply not good enough for this level and certainly not the kind of players we need if we want to progress.
I am at a total loss at how Mauro figured in an NRL Grand Final. I can only think he has suffered some kind of permanent injury since then. Just what was Vievers thinking offering these boys 3 year contracts and McGoldrick 2 years? To compound matters I’m told all three players are on big money.
So what can the club do going forward because we can’t afford to be carrying a couple of passengers that are taking up quota spots? One solution could be to try and move them on to championship clubs and offer to make a sizeable contribution towards their contracts.
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| Quote: Wirecutter "Nothing personal but Mauro, Foran and McGoldrick have all proved to be shocking signings. Vievers should be acknowledged for making the worse signings in superleague history. I think his sacking was justified on making these signings alone regardless of poor results.
The former Manly reserves arrived unfit and have been given plenty time now but they are simply not good enough for this level and certainly not the kind of players we need if we want to progress.
I am at a total loss at how Mauro figured in an NRL Grand Final. I can only think he has suffered some kind of permanent injury since then. Just what was Vievers thinking offering these boys 3 year contracts and McGoldrick 2 years? To compound matters I’m told all three players are on big money.
So what can the club do going forward because we can’t afford to be carrying a couple of passengers that are taking up quota spots? One solution could be to try and move them on to championship clubs and offer to make a sizeable contribution towards their contracts.'"
I've got to agree with that assessment.
All three are offering us nothing and have had ample opportunity to show otherwise.
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| I didn't hear of or see anyone having a pop at Noble, I did see the players getting some stick, but thats understandable after the dross they served up. However whilst we're on the subject of Noble surely it's time to bring Gareth Owen back in? I can't for the life of me understand why Noble has dropped him other that he likes to play experienced players (and always has) for some reason. Get Sneyd back in at fullback, give Gaskell a go at 6 with Theo at 7 and Owen back at 9. And bring anyone in for Mauro I don't care who, someone from the disabled section will do (no offence meant to anyone apart from Mauro of course).
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| Quote: TheButcher "I've got to agree with that assessment.
All three are offering us nothing and have had ample opportunity to show otherwise.'"
I guess if Noble doesn't want them he will get the Doc to pay them up and let them go at the end of the season. Surfice to say I doubt any of them would have been offered more than a 1 year deal if Noble had been in situ from the start of the season.
I'm not that sure that Foran won't turn into a decent player myself as there are signs but with Mauro I agree he doesn't look like he is SL class never mind NRL grand final material.
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| I don't really want to pick on individuals, but enough is enough. The three Aussies who are regularly picked look extremely unfit. This is half way through the season, so no excuses please. If they aren't unfit, they simply aren't good enough. Even for us. Either that, or they just aren't interested.
One is no better than Sneyd. Another is no better than Owen. And the last is no better than James. Hopefully the more enthusiastic, British talent we have won't be made expendable for their sakes
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| Quote: Derek Smalls "I don't really want to pick on individuals, but enough is enough. '"
I don't like singling out individuals either but they have to go it's as simple as that. I just can't see anything to suggest they will come good.
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