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Quote: Michigan red "If he still has 3 years to run on his deal then there must surely be a hefty fee involved, if it is too someone like Saints then the prudent thing would be for the Doc too look for a swap deal. Given the history between the Doc and McManus then I doubt Hock will be allowed to leave for anything less than top Dollar.'"


I think you'll be lucky to get top dollar for him. Too risky a player to spend big on and I doubt Salford can afford to have someone playing half d seeing out his contract. Not the way to break into the 8.

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Quote: stouffer "Could Koukash de-register him and let him rot? It'd be a massive waste of money, obviously.'"


I suspect any good employment lawyer would have a field day with that one!

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Quote: Magic Superbeetle " Out of curiosity, supposing this is Saints, and supposing it was a swap deal Salford was after, who would be considered "fair" taking into consideration Hock wants out?
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I'd take McCarthy-Scarsbrook as an impact forward and Percival as we still need extra cover in the back line for me.

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Salford Red Devils RLFC. [quote="Gotcha":y7izhg01]Salford won't win Super League in my lifetime. Even saying in jest they would sounds stupid.[/quote:y7izhg01]:



The bloke sh*t on Wigan, despite them standing by him following his 2 year drug ban. He then turned his back on Parramatta despite signing a lucrative contract with them. We know what happened with the England squad, despite having the amazing opportunity to play in a World Cup in your own country. Then, after a 7 game ban for deliberate contact with a referee he hands in a transfer request.

I thought Salford was his last chance, I cant see many other clubs queing to pay top dollar for a player that is such a liability. It just doesn't make sense. Yes he's great a player on his day, but unfortunately those days are just to few and far between thesedays for Gareth Hock.

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The bloke is a total plank in my opinion. Over rated in the extreme for his playing ability and nobody will pay a fee for him. It would be like shelling out on a dog who you know will from time to time bite people and regularly crap on the living room carpet.

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Quote: John Gilbert Reds "The bloke sh*t on Wigan, despite them standing by him following his 2 year drug ban. He then turned his back on Parramatta despite signing a lucrative contract with them. We know what happened with the England squad, despite having the amazing opportunity to play in a World Cup in your own country. Then, after a 7 game ban for deliberate contact with a referee he hands in a transfer request.

I thought Salford was his last chance, I cant see many other clubs queing to pay top dollar for a player that is such a liability. It just doesn't make sense. Yes he's great a player on his day, but unfortunately those days are just to few and far between thesedays for Gareth Hock.'"


At least 'HAM' has been completed at last. icon_cool.gif

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Quote: worksopwildcat "The bloke is a total plank in my opinion. Over rated in the extreme for his playing ability and nobody will pay a fee for him. It would be like shelling out on a dog who you know will from time to time bite people and regularly crap on the living room carpet.'"


Made me giggle.

But I'd say your very wrong on his playing ability, still one of the best British back rowers in the game. Also has the best ability for self induced brain farts I've ever seem.

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I think we'll find it tough to replace Hock. I'm interested to know why he's handed in a request in the first place.

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from today's MEN:
"Sources close to the player, however, say he has had what they term 'a sickener of Salford'.

It is also mooted a seven match ban handed out by the RFL in July for allegedly clashing with a referee has further frustrated him"

a sickener?

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The whole situation is getting embarrassing now. Any realistic Salford fan knew we were never going to break into the top 8 this year let alone the top 6 whilst Koukash brought us much needed publicity in the off season he made promises he couldn’t keep and sadly a lot of our fans fell for those promises. The reaction after Sunday has been OTT yes we were poor but we have been for the majority of the season, whilst there has been an improvement in recent weeks some fans have been fooled into thinking we are better than we actually are, Sunday brought us crashing back down to earth. We had / have a lot of average players and for some reason people think they’re better than what they actually are.

I think we will struggle to break into the 8 next year, we are lacking a class hooker and a couple of props although hopefully we can sign a prop with the money freed up from Hock leaving, the quota is now full so they’d have to be English.. Not having a go at the players brought in from the Championship and they may turn out to be good but they don’t fill me with confidence that they can take us to that next level.

Koukash now needs to take back seat in this off season let the dust settle for a bit and hope that Harris can get the team ready for next year.

Twitter should also be banned.

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Blimey! There's some doom and gloom around here at the moment.

Salford's always going to be an up and down ride. Just wait for the car to rise to the next peak.

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How many chances does this Guy need ?
Ultimately life will go on with or without Hock in the Squad.
We can Bicker all we like about the manner in which Marwan operates , without him there wouldn't have a Club big enough to have entertained signings such as Hock in the first place .
Take the rough with the smooth , although it's still mainly rough at present .
I have little sympathy , as the majority of players signing on must have realised the manner of the owner they signed on toplay for. One who pays well , takes you home for dinner when he loves you & bawls you out when he's angry.

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Quote: middleman "How many chances does this Guy need ?
Ultimately life will go on with or without Hock in the Squad.
We can Bicker all we like about the manner in which Marwan operates , without him there wouldn't have a Club big enough to have entertained signings such as Hock in the first place .
Take the rough with the smooth , although it's still mainly rough at present .
I have little sympathy , as the majority of players signing on must have realised the manner of the owner they signed on toplay for. One who pays well , takes you home for dinner when he loves you & bawls you out when he's angry.'"


You're quite right.
We were warned about Hock but we chose to believe,well certainly I did, that this move would be dead right for him.
Better players round him,big money,near to home,fresh start.
We we're let down,as we were told we would be.
I feel sorry for the bloke

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I don't - I feel sorry for us.

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Quote: Bonita Red "You're quite right.
We were warned about Hock but we chose to believe,well certainly I did, that this move would be dead right for him.
Better players round him,big money,near to home,fresh start.
We we're let down,as we were told we would be.
I feel sorry for the bloke'"


Without knowing the true reasons and what exactly goes on in another persons life, I'll personally reserve judgement for those in a better position. I thought he seemed pretty settled and barring the ref incident had been pretty good for us on the field with little or no negatives he has been hounded for throughout his career, surfacing. If the guys not happy, for whatever reason, he's done the right thing. We're in a position now, as a Club, that we can go out and bring in a quality replacement with cash being no issue. So, although disappointing, it's not the end of the world. The Club keeps on going and we keep on watching.

Thanks for your efforts, Gaz.

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