this is gonna be far from our original "ionic" design!mixture of wire/widnes/leigh me thinks.council and peel running the show,nowt to do with us in reality as what coffers are salford cirty reds rfl putting onto the kitty????we are simply going to be tennants and cant see how this will improve the finances of the club/further up the slary cap etc,glad we getting a new ground,but far from excited as i was 3 years ago!!!

Maybe part of that is the 'false dawns' we have had over the past few years... I kind of become numb to it all until the bricks are laid... so whereas it's exciting to get the news... there is an air of 'yeah whatever' that niggles away in the back of my mind to stop me doing cartwheels.

FFS
We get a new stadium actually started and yet people still find something to moan about.
The club are skint,there is a global recession, the pound is at a all time low, building at other projects has been shelved and still somehow the club manage to get this off the ground.
I always thought a stadium similar to Leigh or Widnes would suit us and I see nothing wrong with these.
The options are we stay at the Willows and play in the championship.
And people say I whinge

Cannot believe some of the comments above. Who do we think we are?

We are in a slump yet the Board are still managing to produce a fantastic stadium for all of us backed by outside parties who will ensure the ground will be delivered on time.

I would like to thank the hierarchy for delivering in this financial climate.

No, you whinge

Spot on PR.

Except the 'whige' bit

Thats the American spelling

RP From the drawings that I have seen the stadium is a long way from being a "bargain basement"/rushed job.

The fact that there will be training pitches etc on site will in my opinion make a fantastic sight from whichever way you look at it and although different from the original design it will still be an eye catching stadium.

Harking back to what might have been we cannot have what we cannot afford and I think that the club,the directors in particular should be congratulated along with the council and Peel.

I stated on a similar thread that I thought we would end up with a breeze block stadium ala Haliwell Jones. Thats what you get when you go down the design and build route. But its great that we actually have something now, and I hope that the build carries on without any hitches.

Like people have said though, I am also worried about how the financial side of things will work. If we are just renting the stadium, and all ticket sales, car park, retail etc goes to the joint venture company to pay off the stadium. Can that be allocated to our salary cap?

Also if we are not receiving the revenue streams above, where do we make our money? If we recieve less income, and have to pay rent to play in the stadium, is it possible that our finances will be worse than they are now playing at the Willows?

This isnt a whinge this is just genuine concerns. May be worth getting someone in the know to the next Forever Reds meeting so they can be asked these questions directly.

I have a few issues with it apart from it being a bit of a let down on the design downgrade:
It is stated that it will be a £26m stadium yet its clearly a £12m-£15m design.
Looking at other stadia such as City of Manchester (also a AFL project) which is a £20m 48'000 capacity developement, ours is a rip-off! or how about Preston North End having a £7.1m 22,250 capacity very similar looking yet bigger stadium than us.

Also, the retail area will be used to pay off the loan? Who would want to visit our stadium to shop when just over the road there is The Traffold Centre!!?

And yes the choice is between 'New Stadium' or 'No Stadium' but come on, it seems like Peel have bent us over on this one!

Has anybody got a link to what the new design would like? Apart from on the reds.co.uk website as im having problems getting on it