Hi John Gilbert red. The £80 quid is made up from travel from Wigan as that's where I live. Normerly £30 or 40 quid for tickets as the family one is for standing up and we go either in the east or west depending on the opposition and then programme, pies and drinks for the boys and a couple of pints for me. Before u know it my pockets are empty. I suppose the widens cup game was a bad example but yes once there is stability then hopefully as we both will agree the crowds and results will go hand in hand. You get my drift tho. Thanks

Not sure you can really count the cost of your travel to the game and then push it back as a negative against the club? Otherwise it would cost me £1500 to go to a home game....I would be pretty p**sed off about that!

You have a choice whether to have pies, drinks and a few beers. Also, as far as I recall, they aren't astronomically priced.

I do agree that, similar to United, they could introduce vouchers for a free pie or free pint. One every other home game.

Because I totally sick of the quality of the beer I started grabbing ice cold cans from the shop on the front, make sure you have combats on (the deep and numerous pockets) and Robert is a male relative.

I think the two comments above highlight one of the problems we have with selling ticketsdid[/i include the East Stand. Being a season ticket holder I don't often look at the ticket sales site, but I do know that when I looked early this season the family ticket wasn't even listed amongst the various tickets you could buy for the games I looked at.

We somehow manage to make information hard to find. For example, we've had offers like 6 ticket/6 programmes/6 pints (or something similar) that scrolled on the official site as adverts, but then no link through to actually buy, and we also have a tendency to announce things about tickets as news, and then if someone missed the newsflash then they don't see it as the news inevitably moves off the front page (don't get me started on the lack of ease of simply finding news on the official site). I know people who knew nothing about the ability for season ticket holders to buy discounted tickets for friends and families because it was one of things that was just announced and then went out of sight rather than being clear at all times on the ticket purchase site. I actually thought that when the ticketing moved from ticketline to ticketmaster and season ticket holders were given a ref number to sign up for an online account then we might have been able to buy friends and family tickets through that account, but that doesn't seem to be possible and my facebook question about being able to do that was unanswered.

There was also the initialtive in either 2012 or 2013 (can't remember which) where match tickets were able to be purchased at the tourist info centre at the Lowry. The initiative was tweeted and mentioned on facebook, but wasn't actually mentioned on the ticketing section of the official website. I suspect the uptake was poor and the initiative stopped - but again, if people missed that facebook post or tweet, they woudln't know about it.

Fair comment Iain - anyone on here part of the fans board? If so, when is the next meeting - I have a couple of points I would like to make and have raised on my behalf.

The next fans board was tonight, but has been cancelled, as dr koucash couldnt make it.

Can we ask at the next fans board meeting if we can have feedback?

Last time we got too see some pictures of those involved and not a great deal else.

That was going to be a topic brought up how we communicate with all fans.dont know when next meeting is but it will be sorted..

If it makes you feel any better, we are still waiting for minutes too, so it's not a case of the information being restricted to those on the panel.

Marwan couldn't make it because he is in amsterdam meeting with bosses from an australian club and signing papers to buy them

Always a pleasure to read your informative and positive input.

Perhaps the club would benefit from having a Director of Communicationsof[/i bought <insert player, club, whatever here> instead."icon_wink.gif.

We need someone to ensure that the website is usable; that offers are properly communicated (I went to a gig at the Bridgewater Hall once - I now get regular mailings from them); to make sure the club are visible in the community (I went to the Ordsall Festival over the summer. It's run on a budget that wouldn't even stretch to a shoestring, yet there were hundreds - maybe more than a thousand - people there. A stall with a couple of players doing basic skill stuff would, I feel, have been a major attraction, and I'm sure the festival organisers would snap their hands off if they offered); to drip feed information to the media on a daily basis so that Neil Barker doesn't have to rely on rumours. For example, we supposedly have the players going out to local schools on some promotional activity, yet I've not seen anything in the local press about it (notwithstanding the fact that the timing of it is barmy: "Yes! I'm interested! I really want to go! When's your next match?", "Errr, dunno. Some time in February probably." That's something else you'd hope a Communications Director would be involved in.)

This is the first time Salford hasn’t been incorporated into the merchandise of the club and I for one find this disturbing, I think if they tried to change the name to Manchester it would be a huge mistake and wont pack the crowds in! It will in my opinion signal the end of RL in the area. A successful wining SALFORD team with a stadium accessible to everyone is the key

Playing devils advocate here so don't bite my head off...

If the people of Salford don't come out and support MK and the Club IF we are successful, the last excuse will have passed and a name change (Or an incorporation of the Manchester name) would have to be tried. For a city that is fiercely independent from Manchester, it's public are terribly apathetic of its RL team. The irony in all this is a lot of the same people support Manchester UTD and see no conflict over names.

I am a proud Salfordian
and still believe if we have a successful SALFORD team we will see the crowds increase and I personally know people who are season ticket holders from Stockport and Bolton who follow the reds so I cant see the argument about changing the name so the people of Greater Manchester are not suddenly going to flood through the gates because of a name change!!