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| Quote: Bullseye "At Bradford the local community clubs had been neglected/ignored for years. The actual number of Bradford lads making it with the Bulls has been minimal over the years usually just the odd one every few years. This year we’ve promoted double figures. The first time that’s ever happened. It is possible at Salford but it requires patience. It doesn’t require a fortune. If we’re managing it on our meagre income outside SL then I can’t understand why MK can’t afford it.
Sounds like he's lost interest to me.'"
I don't think he's lost interest, it's more likely he's getting sick of bankrolling the club and not seeing the progress he wants on and off the field. It's pleasing to read how Bradford are developing academy players but I think you have traditionally had a much better catchment area than us.
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| Youth setups don't generally produce immediately. They need years before they bear fruit. You have to bring through talent and it takes time. A 16 year old that signs may take 3-4 years before debut and then a few more before they "make it". You might only get one or two a year so it takes time to build up a side.
Think the Doctor lacked patience in this regard.
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| Quote: maurice "without SL the Academies will die anyway.'"
Ourselves and London do alright. Same at Newcastle.
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| Quote: Bullseye "Youth setups don't generally produce immediately. They need years before they bear fruit. You have to bring through talent and it takes time. A 16 year old that signs may take 3-4 years before debut and then a few more before they "make it". You might only get one or two a year so it takes time to build up a side.
Think the Doctor lacked patience in this regard.'"
I understand that but we've had an academy since year dot. The only academy players we have produced of any note are Jordan Turner, Stephan Ratchford, Theo Fages , Mark Sneyd and Niall Evalds. The problem is the few quality kids we develop over several years and give first team experience get snapped up by bigger clubs. To be honest I think we've had more success in the past picking up Wigan's youth players that couldn't break into their first team like Blakeley, Naylor, Reid, Gillfillan and Baines etc.
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| Think if your club had been run a bit better you may have hung onto the likes of Fages, Sneyd and Evalds. We're in the same boat. Where are Whitehead, the Burgesses, Bateman, Ferres, Kopczak, Atkins, Wardle, Cook, Patrick, Bridge etc now?
Despite that it's not a reason to give up. The conveyor belt has benefited us.
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| Quote: Bullseye "Youth setups don't generally produce immediately. They need years before they bear fruit. You have to bring through talent and it takes time. A 16 year old that signs may take 3-4 years before debut and then a few more before they "make it". You might only get one or two a year so it takes time to build up a side.
Think the Doctor lacked patience in this regard.'"
You do realise that the club being rated as a C academy (most of the rating refer to before Marwan arrived) means we CAN NOT RUN A U 16 TEAM for a period of four years. The ruling also means a reduction in relation to funding for the academy setup
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| Quote: bezzerscr "You do realise that the club being rated as a C academy (most of the rating refer to before Marwan arrived) means we CAN NOT RUN A U 16 TEAM for a period of four years. The ruling also means a reduction in relation to funding for the academy setup'"
Koukash has been here almost 4 years now hasn't he? How often do these ratings get reviewed and what is the criteria?
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| Four year cycle so our next grading is due in 2019.
The last one covered the period 2010 through 2014
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| Criteria includes education, welfare, facilites etc
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| So basically clubs that didn't have the resources to fund it, get a funding reduction for 4 years. Surely any change of ownership with the criteria fulfilled would prompt an immediate review?
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| Not so much financial more to do with quality but that usually comes down to finance.
Never grasped why if academies are about producing more players, why the rfl punish clubs by taking funding away which only impacts on young players
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| Quote: theredshed "So basically clubs that didn't have the resources to fund it, get a funding reduction for 4 years. Surely any change of ownership with the criteria fulfilled would prompt an immediate review?'"
You would expect so but it doesn't
Equally Catalans got a top grading before they'd played a game and it won't change for 4 year's.
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| Is this different to the annual accreditation?
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| Quote: TheButcher "If true, it's a massive mistake.
The academy should have been a priority years ago, before MK came around. We'd be producing decent talent every year and it would be paying for itself. Instead, we never bothered. Impressive that we have managed to produce so many decent youngsters tbh. Imagine what we would be producing if we'd have got this right ten years ago?
MK should have sorted this as his first project instead of buying-in expensive bell-ends.
To scrap it now is madness, and leaves us off worse financially in the long run. You don't produce youngsters you don't get the SC discounts. Current operational rules say you need a percentage of home grown youngsters in your squad, and we'll be left buying-in expensive signings or forking-out for other clubs youngsters.
Makes no sense.'"
Perhaps is going to run a reserve/A team
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