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| There is nobody unhappier than us on how Theo left the club, tried talking to him to see the season out,but his head had been turned by a certain person over 18 months ago,when we was also approached to advise him to leave the club,which we declined to do. Eventually, amongst other things happening, Theo's head was turned & he became unhappy. The walking out was a decision he was advised to do to fulfill somebody else's ambition & get back at the club.
Youngsters need to be wary of people bearing gifts!!!!!
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| Quote: billybradshawsmum "There is nobody unhappier than us on how Theo left the club, tried talking to him to see the season out,but his head had been turned by a certain person over 18 months ago,when we was also approached to advise him to leave the club,which we declined to do. Eventually, amongst other things happening, Theo's head was turned & he became unhappy. The walking out was a decision he was advised to do to fulfill somebody else's ambition & get back at the club.
Youngsters need to be wary of people bearing gifts!!!!!'"
Thank You Shirley for enlightening us with your background Info. I know you spent a lot of time with Theo from being very young.
I think Theo whilst he played for Salford always gave 100% and worked his socks off in some trying times. I think he's a very good young prospect but not quite the finished article. I think he'll go on to be a very good player in the future and thrive with some good coachng.
I too was extremely disappointed with the manner of his exit strategy. I'll remember him with fond memories apart from his exit. He could have left by finishing the season to ensure our survival and with grace such as Stef and David Hodgson. Maybe his age played a part in his descision
Good luck to the lad.
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| Quote: billybradshawsmum "There is nobody unhappier than us on how Theo left the club, tried talking to him to see the season out,but his head had been turned by a certain person over 18 months ago,when we was also approached to advise him to leave the club,which we declined to do. Eventually, amongst other things happening, Theo's head was turned & he became unhappy. The walking out was a decision he was advised to do to fulfill somebody else's ambition & get back at the club.
Youngsters need to be wary of people bearing gifts!!!!!'"
I'm assuming Shirl that we'll need to wait a LONG time before you'll divulge who's turned his head?
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| I don't know how anybody could read Long's autobiography and see him as a role model.
He was undoubtedly a tremendous player though
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6329_1327085433.jpg ...Diagnosing SBD (Sporting Bipolar Disorder) since 2003...
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| Quote: billybradshawsmum "There is nobody unhappier than us on how Theo left the club, tried talking to him to see the season out,but his head had been turned by a certain person over 18 months ago,when we was also approached to advise him to leave the club,which we declined to do. Eventually, amongst other things happening, Theo's head was turned & he became unhappy. The walking out was a decision he was advised to do to fulfill somebody else's ambition & get back at the club.
Youngsters need to be wary of people bearing gifts!!!!!'"
I wish Theo no ill will and hope it all works out for him, but I can't forgive him (And the turds whispering in his ear) for the way he treated us, the supporters, doing it the way he did. I don't think he's a vindictive sort, so I can only imagine that the 'head-turners' created enough doubt in his mind. I can see the frustration that he probably had with Chase and Dobson taking priority, and it doesn't take a genius to whisper the right things in his ear.
A shame, but it's over now, time to move on.
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| I think some of you are being far too gracious about Fages manner of leaving....
bearing in mind we have released players this season and they have been model pro's and played with 100% effort and dedication since those announcements....its not nice to see a player shaft his own club like Fages has. I didnt even know you could simply hand your notice in...!!
Mickey higham while at the other end of the age spectrum to Fages left in a similar manner...having his head turned by a better/longer deal.
Mickey is currently bumming around in a lower division and getting spanked and will be again next year. He could have been playing superleague with us next year - it would have been his last year granted - but its not be..... and a sneaky part of me is so glad....
you reap what you sow ........as they say
If you get your recruitment right and the right type of player... the Joel Monaghans of the world for example, you might not be that far off Saints next year...it must surely be a grudge match in the making.....???
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| I know a bloke who works for fages agency, he told me a while ago that salford had made a 'brilliant offer' to him, but they (the agents) hate koucash, and also salford in my opinion, and he was going, agents are parasites and ive told this bloke my views but he says they are only interested in the players welfare, complete bull, they are only interested in what they can get. What i would really like to know is why couldn't theo fages say to his agent, he would resign at the end of the season? After all he makes the final decision.
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| Quote: martin13 "I know a bloke who works for fages agency, he told me a while ago that salford had made a 'brilliant offer' to him, but they (the agents) hate koucash, and also salford in my opinion, and he was going, agents are parasites and ive told this bloke my views but he says they are only interested in the players welfare, complete bull, they are only interested in what they can get. What i would really like to know is why couldn't theo fages say to his agent, he would resign at the end of the season? After all he makes the final decision.'"
Spot on above !!
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| Quote: the flying biscuit "I think some of you are being far too gracious about Fages manner of leaving....
bearing in mind we have released players this season and they have been model pro's and played with 100% effort and dedication since those announcements....its not nice to see a player shaft his own club like Fages has. I didnt even know you could simply hand your notice in...!!
Mickey higham while at the other end of the age spectrum to Fages left in a similar manner...having his head turned by a better/longer deal.
Mickey is currently bumming around in a lower division and getting spanked and will be again next year. He could have been playing superleague with us next year - it would have been his last year granted - but its not be..... and a sneaky part of me is so glad....
you reap what you sow ........as they say
If you get your recruitment right and the right type of player... the Joel Monaghans of the world for example, you might not be that far off Saints next year...it must surely be a grudge match in the making.....???'"
Nevermind,theres always next year..
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11969.jpg Me and are kid (TheButcher) putting the world two rights.
ERIC SHAW PREDICTION LEAGUE & PLAY OFFS WINNER 2013
Don't like it? Well Frack off then. Energy & progress for all.
Foe is our friend.
mitie mouse, Lancetodd, Marshy1, eccles star, Dantes Inferno, Philyourboots, biggunbrad, DAVE@CAS1990, RED LEAGUE, OzWelsh, Red-Devils-PAW, newgroundb4wakey
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| Quote: atomic "Nevermind,theres always next year..'"
Yes but be careful, you might end up with neck strain looking up at everyone!
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| Quote: martin13 "I know a bloke who works for fages agency, he told me a while ago that salford had made a 'brilliant offer' to him, but they (the agents) hate koucash, and also salford in my opinion, and he was going, agents are parasites and ive told this bloke my views but he says they are only interested in the players welfare, complete bull, they are only interested in what they can get. What i would really like to know is why couldn't theo fages say to his agent, he would resign at the end of the season? After all he makes the final decision.'"
Heard similar that Graeme Taylor and Marwan Koukash have a very volatile relationship, even to the point of Koukash banning him from the stadium. Clearly his agent has done all he could to move him on from Salford and my theory on the resignation is, Mr Taylor knew Saints would never pay a transfer fee above £50k so in order to reduce Theo's value (probably around £80k) he used mistakes Salford had made previously with regards to Theos contract and cite breach of contract. Knowing full well an RFL tribunal would favour the player and set a marginal transfer fee.
As we know, it never went to a tribunal and a fee of less than £30k was agreed.
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| Quote: theredshed "I'm not in the Theo lover camp but I can't blame the lad. There's been zero progress in the past few years and the whole feel of the club just hasn't felt right. Hopefully this is a huge wake up call and a time to learn from past mistakes. Going forward there has to be much more emphasis on improving recruitment, team spirit, mental attitude, consistency and discipline. The future has to be viewed as a steady building process rather than some quick fix route to success.
Personally I think the biggest mistake Koukash has made since he's been at the club was gambling on a rookie coach. Harris may have been OK tactically/technically but he obviously lacked the necessary management skills and experience to pacify and control certain individuals in a challenging environment. An analogy I would use is it's like a young inexperienced builder trying to construct a luxury house with very expensive materials on no foundations. What's going to happen? It's going to collapse isn't it?'"
Sorry can't agree with that statement...in my opinion the biggest mistake of the Koucash era was appointing Brian Noble and trusting his judgement on players...to me Noble had lost touch with the modern game and his signings reflected this. Apart from Greg Johnson we had absolutely no pace whatsoever and the style of play wasn't great to watch either. Smith and Chase never jelled...Meli and Williams too slow...I thought when Harris took over he did an admirable job steadying the ship, sorting the defence out and injecting much needed pace. I think Harris had bad luck with the Chase ban and then Dobson getting injured ...apart from the strange signing of Micheal Platt who ran like a tortoise on prozac he did ok in my book. With regards to Theo ? Im not too bothered ..let Saints have him ..unless Long can develop him I don't think his kicking game will be good enough for that level and will be found out...Id much rather we tie Evalds down to lengthy contract and look after him as that young man is definitely a class act.
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| Noble could only sign what was available,hence Smith not Dobson.
The Koukash mistake was jettisoning Noble too early and starting the trend of instability
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| Personally I think Koukash made a knee jerk reaction. Fair enough if Noble wasn't the right man he should have held off and waited for a few months for a proven Aussie coach to become available. It may have cost a lot more money to attract this caliber of coach but I'm pretty certain we would be in a much better position now.
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11969.jpg Me and are kid (TheButcher) putting the world two rights.
ERIC SHAW PREDICTION LEAGUE & PLAY OFFS WINNER 2013
Don't like it? Well Frack off then. Energy & progress for all.
Foe is our friend.
mitie mouse, Lancetodd, Marshy1, eccles star, Dantes Inferno, Philyourboots, biggunbrad, DAVE@CAS1990, RED LEAGUE, OzWelsh, Red-Devils-PAW, newgroundb4wakey
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| Seems the minute he leaves Salford he feels more comfortable not wearing a head guard.
Playing against Wales ATM, looks odd not seeing him in the cap.
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