No what I do say is that we have no say in how the owners of the property we rent use said property.

If we want to endlessly find issue with it we can, or we can except we have co tennants and look for positives.

To answer your question more directly.

The club are now less likely to field questions from the owner about profit margins and just exactly how long the venture will take to turn a profit. Which for the owners/investors is and should be thier main priority.

Hell if nothing else Wilky can have snoot around and see how certain employees should perform in thier roles.

For Salford, it wouldn't. There are employees of the club who are experienced in developing a full website solution that would complete the club's needs. I doubt many other rugby league clubs can claim to have this level of technical expertise in-house.

Hosting won't cost that much. rlUK Fast have a link up with the websiterl, so perhaps they provide such technical services gratis or pay sponsorship of some kind to cover it.

Open Source software can be used to administer the website content, which is free even for commercial use; I know the club have used such software before.

Online shopping fulfillment apps are relatively cheap to use. For a period, if memory serves, Salford used a service called Shopify, whose pricing rates are rllisted hererl.

As to why there is no online shop or 'functioning web site' (there is a functioning web site) I don't know. I imagine the talk of getting the infrastructure right could mean integrating the stock system into both the physical and online shops, which would help a lot. I can also imagine the amount of visitors/transactions the online shop got in the past was very low, certainly in comparison to this forum and the club's Facebook page, which may have influenced the decision not to make it a priority. But it isn't a question of money or lack thereof.



That seems to be the case. Anyone that speaks to, or has spoken to people that work for the club knows that resources are hardly plentiful. However, there's certainly room for improvement in some areas that don't particularly need much more money putting in.

Can't the whole thing be out sourced for a percentage? would have thought that a bigger promoter/outlet might look at it as a potential investment? Really genuine question as online sales is something I know nowt about but would love to see the club find a quality solution to the issue of runninjg an online shop.

Last time I spoke to the guys I think this was on the cards. I don't think it was a big company per se, it was more like a freelancer or an agency - something like that. I couldn't tell you what did, or rather didn't materalise from that.

So I guess it's doable.

But we were right to put our trust into those people when the plans for the new stadium were first mooted. as it stood then the plans were to give the club a self sufficient future. i'm sure Wilky and the team knew that a new stadium couldn't be funded and run on the crowds we attracted then and were likely to attract going forward. His plan then was for it to be funded by the casino, the hotel, the big bulky goods out of town style shopping stores on the retail site, all subsidising the cost to you and i through the turnstile.

It's unfair to blame Wilky and the club for the public inquiry, the casino application being turned down, the retail site being questioned by Peel/Trafford Centre, Red City Developments going into administration or the economic downturn which has made finance harder to come by. These were all beyond his and any other persons control and meant the club has had to adapt it's plans accordingly. The simple fact is, if any other owner had been in this situation we'd up with the same or similar result. I don't like it just as much as you, i'd prefer Utd reserves or even FC Utd in there but we haven't got that. that's beyond mine and the clubs control. Constantly having a pop at Wilky and Tarry isn't going to get us anywhere, it might make people feel better but it doesn't change the fact that they did the best for the club with the information and facts available to them at the time. i don't feel let down. we have 'our' stadium. we have our super league licence. lets make the most of what we've got

Can see this being the only short term solution, the club as an independant entity can't afford (or need) a big plush online presence. What we do need is an online outlet that isn't always down for maintenance, has more than a ruler and rubber with your name on it and trys at least to give us what we want rather than tat that gathers dust.

Certainly. It was a grand plan.



I tend to agree, although who knows what the motives were of all involved but themselves.

Sadly, however, these events will be largely forgotten. Only a few people around now and club historians of the future will realise what could have been. The lasting legacy of this stadium and its development is forged now.

Your not allowed to be so factually correct, remember it's all Wilkys fault, that we've been sold down the river and that finances worldwide have nothing to do with this.

Well they could afford it because the biggest cost, by far, is development. And the club can cover that, probably for nothing in the off-season, because they already have talented enough staff to do it.



Yep. Even if the online shop lost money (which probably wouldn't be significant) I think having a decent range of goods available would re-establish trust with the fans; and that club merchandise is available to them regardless of their location.

Michigan Red - I'm not going to disect all the recent posts you've made on this thread as there is that much nonsense to correct I'd miss the Huddersfield game.

You've been long established as the worst poster on this forum but you've taken that to new levels recently. On less important threads I skip past your posts but such is the importance of this one I've upsettingly had to endure them.

PS If there are any updates on GT's hooliganism or on the dual signing of Gavin Henson - it must be worth it because he's Welsh and plays RU like David Young - makes sure you keep us all informed.

That someone like you dislikes my posts I find uplifting please feel free to continue skipping my contributions as likewise in the main I do the same with the contrite nonsense you and your gang post on here.

I guess Walshovski may be many things, but I suspect not "contrite"

Or indeed differing understandings of the meanings of words.