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Quote: Enfield Exile "You haven't watched him much. Prior to playing lock he played second-row. I was at the game in which he scored his first try in first grade. He's basically a second-rower asked to play at lock, and very occasionally as a stand-off.'"


Typical Aussie flexibility re their official positions. So dynamic. Hard to say who the dead-set 2nd rowers are they tend to shift positions so frequently.

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Quote: OrdsallRed "OK OK I'll give you at least half of them...but Chris Flannery????
And there's a few in there that are only nominally 2nd rowers too...whenever I've seen Idris play he's been at centre or wing, Gallen i've always seen as a lock forward same with Costigan (who I don't rate either!) and a few others (Lewis, O'Donnell, Creagh, Laurie - wouldnt be first choice 2nd rowers per se though they can all clearly do a job there)

We all know that there are far more players for the Aussies to choose from in all positions...maybe the more pertinent question is, are there any 2nd rowers available who haven't been picked for England?? Apart from The Terminator Ian Sibbit of course'"


Lewis, O'Donnell and Creagh have all played 2nd row in origin this year in an arguably dominant NSW pack.
Idris swaps between 2nd row and centre depending on the state of the game. He's still better than Westwood even in a part time capacity. As for Costigan, I've seen him play more than any other this year and wow, he's been cracking for St George. Has played prop, 2nd row and once at centre which wasn't his best game to be fair.
Gallen, yeh, I was being a bit cheeky there as he's probably the most orthodox lock of the lot. Is he better than Westwood at 2nd row though. Pretty sure he would be...

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Willie Mason. After this year, erm, no! Truly dreadful until around round 20 when he scraped mediocrity.
Carl Webb. 2nd row? Well, if Carl Webb wants to play 2nd row or any other row for that matter, I wouldn't tell him otherwise. He scares people even when he's trying to be nice I'm sure....

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Quote: Red Preacher "Willie Mason. After this year, erm, no! Truly dreadful until around round 20 when he scraped mediocrity.
Carl Webb. 2nd row? Well, if Carl Webb wants to play 2nd row or any other row for that matter, I wouldn't tell him otherwise. He scares people even when he's trying to be nice I'm sure....'"


He can do a job at both, and has played second-row effectively. Who would you rather have at Salford: Carl Webb as a second-rower or Ben Westwood?

Paul Gallen simply doesn't have the ball-handling skills to be, what I would call a proper 'No13'. If memory serves, he broke into Origin as a second-rower, and he broke into the Sharks team as a second-rower.

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Quote: Red Preacher "Willie Mason. After this year, erm, no! Truly dreadful until around round 20 when he scraped mediocrity.
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He's still far better than Westwood

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Quote: Enfield Exile "He's still far better than Westwood'"


Well, if you put it that way... Yeh, I'm with you. Ha. A bloke who has struggled to maintain a 1st team sot in the wooden spoon club is arguably better than a current England squad member. And they go on about the Aussie's backline. icon_rolleyes.gif
You just watch. The Kangaroos will show up, get drunk for a month, play dreadful and England'll win the bloody thing, followed by months of 'experts' on the game such as Barrie Mc heaping praise upon the state of British rugby league...

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Quote: Salford red all over "I can just see it now Slater and Thurston literally sh*tting themselves with worry'"


You seem to have confused their bodily functions - they will actually be pi55ing themselves?!? icon_wink.gif

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Ratchford has been ommitted from the wales game icon_rolleyes.gif

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Quote: scott-the-red "Ratchford has been ommitted from the wales game Myler and Tomkins will start.
Would have liked to have seen Myler and Stef in the halves but I had a feeling it would not happen.

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Quote: Prestwich Red "Would have liked to have seen Myler and Stef in the halves but I had a feeling it would not happen.'"


Myler and Tomkins were the obvious starters. Stef probably had a better chance on the bench. You'd have to say Chris Bridge has been preferred over him in that role.

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Quote: Chico "Myler and Tomkins were the obvious starters. Stef probably had a better chance on the bench. You'd have to say Chris Bridge has been preferred over him in that role.'"

And who does he play for I wonder icon_razz.gif
Almost 2 yrs out but still picked.
The fact that he was in the squad for Ireland in the WC but now decides he wants to play for England is also a joke.
And there was me thinking Tony Smith would show no bias icon_surprised.gifops:

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Quote: Prestwich Red "And there was me thinking Tony Smith would show no bias
Previous international coaches that weren't even at clubs too showed some bias. Which is why I've never been a fan of the dual role, unless there's a selection committee.

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Quote: Chico "Which is why I've never been a fan of the dual role, unless there's a selection committee.'"

Far too sensible a idea for the RFL to use.

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So it starts, Stefan, if you were playing for a "big" club I would have put you in, Smith not picking on form just on club or "new" club, how much longer can we hold onto Stefan. Its the Coley situation all over again icon_surprised.gifops: icon_razz.gif

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Quote: Enfield Exile "From that list, only Mozza is good enough to play at international level. I am embarrassed that the likes of Westwood and Bridge have even been selected in the squad. They are terrible. The Kangaroos would be able to pick 20+ players in each position that these two can play in, who are far better. Add to that we have a coach who wasn't even good enough for a senior coaching job in the NRL.

If Ratchford is not involved in eth games, I will be supporting NZ, and I hope that the Aussies smash England.'"
better get ur new zealand flag out then

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