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One day we'll get York or Sheffield away. One day...

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Quote: GT "One day we'll get York or Sheffield away. One day...'"

Best hanging on a few years until either of them have somewhere to play home games.

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Quote: Leyther_Matt "Best hanging on a few years until either of them have somewhere to play home games.'"


You assume I'm particularly d about making it to the ground from either city's fine hostelries. In Sheffield's case, scrap the ground and scrap going to Doncaster, it'd just be a day out in the Sheffield Tap. icon_biggrin.gifRUNK:

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Quote: TheButcher "The only thing we've got to lose is the game. That's it.

Maybe it's just me, but the Challenge Cup used to be a real event. Something everyone looked forward to. These days, it's just a distraction. Its pull has certainly waned, although I understand the excitement from supporters of top Championship sides to see where their teams stand against SL opposition. The trouble is, they're just one off games and don't represent the week in week out of SL opposition. So even trying to judge your team against SL opposition in the cup is flawed.

I think the game will not live up to the hype. I think Salford will run out easy winners. Unless we're forced to field an academy squad due to injuries. I think Leigh will do themselves justice, but wont win if Salford field a strong side.'"


I'd suggest that losing against a Championship side could have a knock-on effect at a SL club? (How would Marwan rate it? icon_wink.gif)

Also, it's not just the excitement of a Challenge Cup tie against a SL club that's gripping our supporters - 7,500 v Bradford (with admittedly a couple of thousand from the Bulls) and 4,500 against London, with admittedly a couple of dozen from the Broncos! icon_wink.gif) in the Championship, so far.

Yes, Salford should win, but don't forget that Leigh are a full-time club too, so just won't roll over.

As for whether Hock will play or not, well he hasn't turned out for us so far, and we've done ok.

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Quote: TheButcher "The only thing we've got to lose is the game. That's it.

Maybe it's just me, but the Challenge Cup used to be a real event. Something everyone looked forward to. These days, it's just a distraction. Its pull has certainly waned, although I understand the excitement from supporters of top Championship sides to see where their teams stand against SL opposition. The trouble is, they're just one off games and don't represent the week in week out of SL opposition. [sizeSo even trying to judge your team against SL opposition in the cup is flawed.[/size

I think the game will not live up to the hype. I think Salford will run out easy winners. Unless we're forced to field an academy squad due to injuries. I think Leigh will do themselves justice, but wont win if Salford field a strong side.'"


It wasn't flawed against Leeds last year. Remember what Jamie Peacock said? We were worried there, we were worried.
Leigh are a much stronger and a full time team now. have a care. icon_wink.gif

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Quote: Cokey "It wasn't flawed against Leeds last year. Remember what Jamie Peacock said? We were worried there, we were worried.
Leigh are a much stronger and a full time team now. have a care.
With a name like yours Gaz Hocks going to be your bestest ever mate icon_wink.gif

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Quote: Cokey "It wasn't flawed against Leeds last year. Remember what Jamie Peacock said? We were worried there, we were worried.
Leigh are a much stronger and a full time team now. have a care.
You see, you didn't read the entire post, and if you did you obviously chose to ignore the key part. Either willfully so, or through numbness. I wont cast judgement on which is the case.

One off games against SL opposition is just that. It doesn't matter who they are or where they are positioned in the SL table. Performances can be raised, and morale is much improved as it's seen as a make or break game. A defining moment, possibly. Lower teams do beat SL opposition, but rarely back it up for their next encounter, and never go on to win the whole competition. At least to my memory, correct me if I'm wrong.

Why is that?

It's because lower teams are able to raise their game for one off games, but playing at the same level week in week out is a different proposition. Comparing a valiant run out against Leeds to your next encounter with SL opposition is foolhardy. How much time has passed between the two games?

That is why playing one off games against SL Clubs is a flawed way of judging your own teams progress. The only way Leigh can judge itself is after twelve months in SL.

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Quote: TheButcher "You see, you didn't read the entire post, and if you did you obviously chose to ignore the key part. Either willfully so, or through numbness. I wont cast judgement on which is the case.

One off games against SL opposition is just that. It doesn't matter who they are or where they are positioned in the SL table. Performances can be raised, and morale is much improved as it's seen as a make or break game. A defining moment, possibly. Lower teams do beat SL opposition, but rarely back it up for their next encounter, and never go on to win the whole competition. At least to my memory, correct me if I'm wrong.

Why is that?

It's because lower teams are able to raise their game for one off games, but playing at the same level week in week out is a different proposition. Comparing a valiant run out against Leeds to your next encounter with SL opposition is foolhardy. How much time has passed between the two games?

That is why playing one off games against SL Clubs is a flawed way of judging your own teams progress. The only way Leigh can judge itself is after twelve months in SL.'"


You talk total codswallop. We have beaten two ex SL clubs 3 times already this season and Wigan in a friendly with a near full strength side. Hardly a one off PAL. So YOU have chosen to be NUMB and ignore these true key factors. icon_wink.gif

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I can recollect a challenge cup game at the Willows a few years ago. Salford were flying in the lower league and brushing everyone aside by huge margins. We played St Helens and were riding high with confidence. Salford started the game like a house on fire and Cliff Beverley scored a long range try and the home support irrupted. From memory we ended up losing the match by about 50 points. It was interesting to note Mcrae's comments after the match (Saints coach at the time) " We knew they would start well but we realised they would drop away because they don't have to play at this intensity every week".

Not suggesting this will happen but it could be a potential warning for any over confident leythers.

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Quote: Michigan red "With a name like yours Gaz Hocks going to be your bestest ever mate
Yes. Especially when he's pulverizing through your men in the next round. With all to see on sky sports. icon_lol.gif

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Quote: Cokey "You talk total codswallop. We have beaten two ex SL clubs 3 times already this season and Wigan in a friendly with a near full strength side. Hardly a one off PAL. So YOU have chosen to be NUMB and ignore these true key factors.
Haha.

So by Ex-Superleague you mean Championship? icon_lol.gif and a friendly? Because they're always a good indicator of the season to come eh?

Blimey, Cokey. I thought you'd at least engage me on the same level. You're making this too easy!

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Quote: TheButcher "Haha.

So by Ex-Superleague you mean Championship?
OK then, You'll find out how good Leigh are when you visit us in the next round. YOU'VE BEEN WARNED! eusa_whistle.gif

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Quote: TheButcher "You see, you didn't read the entire post, and if you did you obviously chose to ignore the key part. Either willfully so, or through numbness. I wont cast judgement on which is the case.

One off games against SL opposition is just that. It doesn't matter who they are or where they are positioned in the SL table. Performances can be raised, and morale is much improved as it's seen as a make or break game. A defining moment, possibly. Lower teams do beat SL opposition, but rarely back it up for their next encounter, and never go on to win the whole competition. At least to my memory, correct me if I'm wrong.

Why is that?

It's because lower teams are able to raise their game for one off games, but playing at the same level week in week out is a different proposition. Comparing a valiant run out against Leeds to your next encounter with SL opposition is foolhardy. How much time has passed between the two games?

[iThat is why playing one off games against SL Clubs is a flawed way of judging your own teams progress. The only way Leigh can judge itself is after twelve months in SL[/i.'"


That statement is flawed due to inbalance in cap and the fact that the squad of Leigh will be stronger as a result.
The FT advantage will be removed but the rosta of Salford should be better than Leigh's, is Harris a better coach than Rowley? Are Salfords team as closely knit as Leighs ? How much will home advantage play a role ? Who will be more confident? Who has most to lose? Who will have a full squad to choose from? We are a better, fitter and stronger team than last year - should be a great occasion and one not to miss. Hope its a classic

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Quote: TheButcher "Haha.

So by Ex-Superleague you mean Championship? icon_razz.gif

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