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| I'm not defending Hock, but he's been a bit unlucky with the game being on TV
Referee Bn Thaler took an age looking at the big screen replays before sin binning him
If it hadn't been on TV ?
It really proves the point that All games should have the big screen now, especially if the Refs can now refer to them
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| Last year we won I think 7 of the last 9 games. It is significant that these were won without Hock. Penalty count improved which gave the team more possession?
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| Quote: Bonita Red "Hock is undoubtedly a liability and he does have previous.
He's guilty as charged.
A 6 game ban is ridiculous.
What he did is indefensible but 6 matches is daft. He's an easy target'"
If he is guilty as charged, and what he did was indefensible (your words) why are you trying to defend him, as you say 6 matches is daft it should have been more.
As for your embarrassing last sentence the only easy target was the unfortunate players who had already had 2 players laying on them when your hero decided to kneel on their heads risking fractures to the cheekbone or the jaw
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| Quote: chissitt "If he is guilty as charged, and what he did was indefensible (your words) why are you trying to defend him, as you say 6 matches is daft it should have been more.
As for your embarrassing last sentence the only easy target was the unfortunate players who had already had 2 players laying on them when your hero decided to kneel on their heads risking fractures to the cheekbone or the jaw
has that ever happened ? someone breaking someones skull or fracturing a Jaw by "kneeling on them" Ive been watching and playing the game for an awful long time and while its not nice Ive never seen an injury from it...?
look it was a cowards act ..the act of an idiot, the act of someone who has issues already and has got frustrated his team are garbage. I'm glad he plays for a rival and not us, as he is clearly a liability.
however what the Referees are missing is a bigger concern for me than Gaz hock being a tit. the first knee wasn't nice because it was actually on the nose and that could have ended up bust. The second was nothing more than minor contact on the top of the head. (former Referee now co-commentator cummings said "Face" I rest my case on Referees)
In another Televised game I saw Justin Carney attack a flying Morgan Escare's face with a swinging arm (that has been proven time and time again to break noses eye sockets and jaws) and he got off with a simple penalty. This just highlights the fact that While everyone wants to see the public hanging of gareth Hock they are missing the real nasty stuff....
Why did Darryl Griffin not get done for the swinging arm to Masoes face which was the reason he was on the floor holding his face in the first place.... not because of Hocks knee.
setting some dangerous precedents by ignoring the dangerous stuff and pandering to the pantomime stuff.
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| Anyone else fear for the bloke once he leaves the game of RL? Just what will he do with his life, without professional RL.
You would hope those close to the bloke (particularly his agent – who surely owes his Client a ‘duty of care’) will do their upmost to get Hock whatever professional help it is he needs (probably a very good sports psychologist) before it’s all too late. With the amount of games he’s missed over the years, he could go on to play beyond his years but not if he continues with this ridiculous behaviour.
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| There are always players who get highlighted for what they do , Hock is in the list along wth people lilke Terry Newton , Barrie McDermott going back as far as Kurt Sorenson. As with football now everything is magnified due to TV so players need to adapt or he's always going to get banned when doing stupid things which may or may not have been picked up in the past.
On the other hand , having Walne x 2 ,Heuraki , HH , Sanderson plus a few others may off set the loss a little although how long you can keep a player who gets banned for 14 games out of the last 16 is questionnable , especially when he comands such a large portion of the salary cap
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| Quote: John Gilbert Reds "Anyone else fear for the bloke once he leaves the game of RL? Just what will he do with his life, without professional RL. '"
No idea, although in fairness he's getting a fair bit of practice in.
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| Quote: Andyjc7 "There are always players who get highlighted for what they do , Hock is in the list along wth people lilke Terry Newton , Barrie McDermott going back as far as Kurt Sorenson. As with football now everything is magnified due to TV so players need to adapt or he's always going to get banned when doing stupid things which may or may not have been picked up in the past.
On the other hand , having Walne x 2 ,Heuraki , HH , Sanderson plus a few others may off set the loss a little although how long you can keep a player who gets banned for 14 games out of the last 16 is questionnable , especially when he comands such a large portion of the salary cap'"
Have we bought a new player called Sanderson?
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| From looking at the stats from last season, he only played 14 out of 27 SL games.
For someone who's probably going to be in our top 5 earners at the club that return is just not acceptable!
Think it's time we cut our losses!
He's just a waste of a salary cap and squad spot IMHO.
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| I'm starting to wonder whether Koukash's cryptic tweet was referring to Hock rather than the club itself.
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| I can see us never getting of Hock and that's the problem this club has. Some players are taking Salford for a ride meaning we'll always struggle to progess. I can guarantee if we got rid of Hock, Chase & Locke(injury purposes) and brought in a quick ptb hooker a mean prop and hard working back rower we would be better off. Someone like Houghton, Kirmond & Huby for a lot less money!
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| Quote: bandgeekmafia78 "I'm starting to wonder whether Koukash's cryptic tweet was referring to Hock rather than the club itself.'"
I had thought the same.
I doubt Sheens will be anything but brutal about keeping a player like Hock around.
Would be nice knowing what percentage of the cap will be sat in the stands because he's banned again.
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| Quote: Fozzysalforddevil "I can see us never getting of Hock and that's the problem this club has. Some players are taking Salford for a ride meaning we'll always struggle to progess. I can guarantee if we got rid of Hock, Chase & Locke(injury purposes) and brought in a quick ptb hooker a mean prop and hard working back rower we would be better off. Someone like Houghton, Kirmond & Huby for a lot less money!'"
Interesting opinion, I suppose though it's all about finding the right balance. Too many chiefs and not enough indians perhaps?
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| Quote: the flying biscuit "has that ever happened ? someone breaking someones skull or fracturing a Jaw by "kneeling on them"look it was a cowards act ..the act of an idiot,
however what the Referees are missing is a bigger concern for me than Gaz hock being a tit. the first knee wasn't nice because it was actually on the nose and that could have ended up bust. The second was nothing more than minor contact on the top of the head.
In another Televised game I saw Justin Carney attack a flying Morgan Escare's face with a swinging arm (that has been proven time and time again to break noses eye sockets and jaws) and he got off with a simple penalty. This just highlights the fact that While everyone wants to see the public hanging of gareth Hock they are missing the real nasty stuff....
Why did Darryl Griffin not get done for the swinging arm to Masoes face which was the reason he was on the floor holding his face in the first place.... not because of Hocks knee'"
First of all I never mentioned anybody having a fractured skull, just the RISK of fracturing his jaw or cheekbone which are far more delicate and easier to damage. As you say the first knee was on the nose and could have ended up bust or broken even, it's good of you though to trivialise the second knee which according to you just made minor contact to the head.
You are right about teapot though(Darrel Griffin) he should have gone off for pulling Amor's hair and also Carney as well for his assault on Escare, but that's not the issue here is it, it's Hock and how you can both criticise and then defend his thuggery is beyond comprehension.
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| Quote: Fozzysalforddevil "Have we bought a new player called Sanderson?
Ha , apologies , meant Paterson although the way he was carrying his arm as he went off means we would well do with signing someone
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