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I can see where a lot of fans on twitter (who won't come on here) are coming from, there is a section of fans who go to games who people call the scarlet turkey lads, everyone knows who they are, I can remember them all since I first started watching back in 1992, to me and a lot of other fans I know, they seem to have an arrogance about them along with a stubbornness too, they seem to think they are the doormen of the home end, if anyone does anything that doesn't live up to their standards they distance themselves from them or throw snidy comments, I also remember in the shed if anyone other than themselves started any song you wouldn't hear a peep out of them, along with the ban the drums and face painting and foam hands comments also I can 100% completely agree and see why there is hate towards them. This is where the Salford faithful comments came from I think Imo.

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Quote: "I also remember in the shed if anyone other than themselves started any song you wouldn't hear a peep out of them, along with the ban the drums and face painting and foam hands comments also I can 100% completely agree and see why there is hate towards them.'"


I cant agree with this part due to 80% of the old fans from the shed (centre singing section) haven't made the transition to the south stand

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Quote: BigT "I cant agree with this part due to 80% of the old fans from the shed (centre singing section) haven't made the transition to the south stand'"


I didn't say they did, I'm recalling what I remember in the shed, I presume their exactly the same now anyway.

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Quote: Mike87 "I can see where a lot of fans on twitter (who won't come on here) are coming from, there is a section of fans who go to games who people call the scarlet turkey lads, everyone knows who they are'"


Care to name names?

I've always wondered who people are specifically referring to when mentioning 'The Scarlet Turkey Lads' just to see if they're the same lads who actually used to write and contribute to it.

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Good grief, I don't go to Salford to take part in any of this.

Salford is a key part of my entertainment time. Even through the many hurtful decades I have attended, it ranks as a pastimenot work, politics or trade unionism.
Give it a break. This is not Sunni v Shi'ite or Catholics v Protestants.

There are people who'd cause a fight in an empty room. Leave them alone. Feed them and we get more scenes as at the Leeds match. So don't.

The rest of us can concentrate on Salford.

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I don't consider myself to be "one of the Scarlet Turkey lads", but if drums do appear in the south stand, I'm moving elsewhere...

As for the rest of it... It seems some people have taken offence at comments not aimed at them - or taking offence at things that aren't actually true, or haven't happened. I've even seen photos posted singling out people in away ends as "the boring crew". Just turn up, watch the match however you want to watch the f*cking match and go home.

Hillbilly Red has got it spot on.

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Quote: GT "I don't consider myself to be "one of the Scarlet Turkey lads", but if drums do appear in the south stand, I'm moving elsewhere...
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God if I'd have only known it was this easy icon_wink.gif

Being serious why the in fighting, I honestly don't get it. Surely as fans we all in the end have the clubs best interests at heart. I've applied and I come on here does that make me part of the Turkey lot? Never been part of a gang before I wish someone would have told me I'd wear the bloods colours more if I'd have known.

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Quote: The Perry Boy "Care to name names?

I've always wondered who people are specifically referring to when mentioning 'The Scarlet Turkey Lads' just to see if they're the same lads who actually used to write and contribute to it.'"


didn't know that just by posting on here I was a clique, I thought we were just fans of the same club .
Only reason I don't Twitter' is I generally need more than 140 letters to make any sense.
I am led to believe the ' Turkey Lads' all live in 'the Shed' at the bottom end of the Butchers Garden ...

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It seems many have decided to use social media as an attempt to get themselves noticed by the new regime, especially since Koukash decided to join twitter. Attempts to prove top redness vary wildly however having a go at certain members of this forum seems to be quite a high points scorer amongst some.

Hopefully the new fans board will be seen to represent most parties of our fanbase, which should stop the usual tiresome accusations of cliques etc that are aimed at the likes of Forever Reds etc.

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Quote: middleman "didn't know that just by posting on here I was a clique, I thought we were just fans of the same club .
Only reason I don't Twitter' is I generally need more than 140 letters to make any sense.
I am led to believe the ' Turkey Lads' all live in 'the Shed' at the bottom end of the Butchers Garden ...'"


erm...is the 140 letters bit a joke to match the one below it???
I've known you for over a decade and you've failed to make any sense in that time!

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Quote: Skudlooking " couldn't even tell u who runs this forum.'"


Nobody runs it as such. For the last few years Scarlet Turkey has been the name of the Salford forum on rlfans.com. One of over 100 forums on a network with over 120,000 users. Each forum has moderators to make sure posts stay within the law and within the rlfans acceptable usage policy (hence why I've just edited a post on the first page of this thread because it involved copyright infringement.) The Moderators here are myself, King of the Shed, Chico and Loyalfan.

Going back in time, the Scarlet Turkey was more. It was a print fanzine established by myself and a few others in 1998; some departed, some joined, and the last print edition was about 2005. Then there were a handful of online only issues until 2008 that are still available to view -


As I stated on Twitter, this "page" hasn't had a dig at anyone. The Scarlet Turkey hasn't said anything since the last online edition in 2008. You are correct that some users on here have criticised @SalfordFaithful and other individuals in posts on here, but they speak for themselves. They represent the views of rlfans.com or the Scarlet Turkey no more than a person on Twitter represents the views of Twitter Incorporated. The only people who could vaguely be seen as speaking for the Turkey are the four moderators, and you won't have read any of us having digs. I know a few of the posters who post on here, but there are plenty of users who I don't know (or at least can't match the username to the face).

Quote: Skudlooking "'ve always wondered who people are specifically referring to when mentioning 'The Scarlet Turkey Lads' just to see if they're the same lads who actually used to write and contribute to it.'"


The way I see it, as I've been accused on Twitter of things that are definitely not my doing, there is two perceptions. One is from Mike87, who I think does actually refer to either myself or people who I know (despite the fact that in 1992 I was a kid stood with my Dad and hadn't met any of the others) and I can only assume that either I or one of them have done something that he's taken offence to in the past. If it was me, I apologise, it wasn't intended, it may have been a bad day or I may have been worse for wear. People change, they grow up, they chill out. Dwelling on the past isn't really helping right now. I stand with various people at games and I feel lucky to have met so may sound people from different backgrounds.

The second perception is what I think people from a newer generation of Facebook/Twitter internet users refer to as "the Scarlet Turkey lot", which simply people who post on here. Two people have been named to me on twitter (one by their username on here and one by their real name) as being part of the Turkey lot and neither has ever had anything to do with the fanzine or website.


As has been posted elsewhere, people will support their team in different ways. Nobody is better or worse than another (caveat below), just different in how they want to act at games and support their team. Not everybody is going to be bessie mates, people will form groups who they hang out with, but we're all Salford fans and we all want to see a successful team on the pitch and a much improved club off the pitch. Caveat - the one supporter behaviour we've had at Barton though which I massively deplore is the fairly frequently chucking of things at opposition players and match officials - it reflects badly on the club, and it reflects badly on all of us - but surely nobody's going to condone that.

My comments on the fans board were posted last week on twitter - simply that I really hope that they can get a good cross section of supporters in terms of ages and experiences. I've been on holiday so I'm not sure how widely it's been publicised, but my concern would be that with it being announced and applications concluded between home games, then it may limit the section of support who is actually aware of it happening.

Hopefully at least 7 of them will disapprove of drums icon_wink.gif

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Well Said Iain!

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Iain, can you break your fantastic post into 140 character segments so that twitter users don't feel left out..... Obviously, I'm joking!!!!!

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Quote: Iain "

The second perception is what I think people from a newer generation of Facebook/Twitter internet users refer to as "the Scarlet Turkey lot", which simply people who post on here. Two people have been named to me on twitter (one by their username on here and one by their real name) as being part of the Turkey lot and neither has ever had anything to do with the fanzine

If I'm correct, the one mentioned by their real name, is in my opinion, the best twitter account by a Salford fan.
And someone who should be on the fans board, as he wouldn't be doing it for the 'look at me' factor.

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I do have twitter (never actually 'tweeted' though, other than RT, lol) but didnt know so many people did have it, but I think I know the group they're on about. They do seem to have an arrogance about them at games and their opinions on here only reinforce the stereotype in my opinion. I would never say Im part of the "Scarlet Turkey group" as I dont stand with them but it seems from what im reading that "Scarlet Turkey" is becoming a bit of a toxic insult labeled at certain members of our fans sadly and this isnt a good thing. (Out of interest, why was the fanzine called Scarlet Turkey in the first place Iain, always wondered?) I too have the seen the phots on facebook circulating with the tags "The Boring Crew" and I dont find it nice or funny. Sadly, I feel that this is partly a consequence of, as has been mentioned, people trying to impress Marwan and Martin Vickers since they got twitter ( why do people tag them in EVERYTHING?). And the idea of this fans board is only making 'groups' of fans which already existed try to become more prominent, whether intentionally so or not. Inevitably fans will always support the team but there will inevitably be different groups of fans who share interests and hence why they now seem to be fighting for prominence on twitter. Meanwhile, why dont you "scarlet turkey lads" (you know who you are! icon_wink.gif ) just try and smile at people at games and be a bit more welcoming, it could improve your reputation a lot, you never know! icon_smile.gif

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