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| Quote: EFCWARRIOR "Matty Ashurst , Andrew Dixon??? As far as i know both young Wigan/Saints lads'"
Both came through the saints academy. |
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| Quote: Red John "Marwan identified the weaknesses in Salford's academy set up very early on (I remember him referring to it in one of his 'open days'). He wanted to bring Shane Flanagan over for a three month stint to address the issues, but visa difficulties meant there wasn't sufficient time left for him to come over once he finally received that visa. The club have said they're in weekly contact with him, and Iestyn will be going over to work with him during the close season. Beneath the eye-catching stuff like the marquee signing, Marwan is actually doing the things people think he should do.'"
I sincerely hope he does. I have made my views on the home grown vs marquee debate clear - and have no wish to have one now - I must confess I found the report disturbing, as little/ no progress appears to have been made - but I do hope it gets the care and attention it deserves, having the ability to tap into the Manchester area for new talent would have a massive affect on rugby league imo.
Anyway to answer the OPs question, saints home grown team for this season would look like:
Lomax*
Makinson** Percival Jones* Swift
Eastmond** Smith**
Graham** Roby** Thompson
Clough Ashurst
Wilkin**
Ellis Emmitt*** Richards Greenwood
* England knights caps
** full England honours
*** not technically in sl I admit but a good player for Leigh
With a couple more (Dean, Moore, Dixon, Gaskell, Foster) running around. |
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| Quote: Magic Superbeetle "Both came through the saints academy.'"
I know that but Dixon is a Warrington Lad played for Crosfields. |
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| Quote: Magic Superbeetle "I sincerely hope he does. I have made my views on the home grown vs marquee debate clear - and have no wish to have one now - I must confess I found the report disturbing, as little/ no progress appears to have been made - but I do hope it gets the care and attention it deserves, having the ability to tap into the Manchester area for new talent would have a massive affect on rugby league imo.
Anyway to answer the OPs question, saints home grown team for this season would look like
Salford pretty much lost its academy after the financial implosion, just as that academy was starting to produce players for the first team. Even so, the academy then was far from perfect, and, obviously, there's a lot more work to be done, but we can't expect massive improvements in such a short space of time. As I said, Marwan has already mentioned the academy as something the club needs to address, and, contrary to what fans of other clubs seem to think, he's generally delivered on what he says about Salford. There's no reason why we can't have an improved academy and a marquee player at the top, which is why I think Eamonn McManus is being disingenuous when he tries to turn it into an either/or issue and pretends that's what's good for the game.
As for a Salford home grown team, well, without resorting to 'good players for Leigh' or former Hull KR players as you have, it'll leave a few gaps, but...
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Platt, Turner, Watkins, ***
Ratchford, Sneyd/Fages
A Walne, Owen, ***
J Walne, Walton
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There may be others and I'm sure someone will fill in the gaps, but all of those players are playing regularly in SL, with the exception of Michael Platt and of Gareth Owen, who should be but isn't because of an error by a previous coach who sent him out on season long loan. Considering how poor our academy is, that's not too shabby.
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Morley at prop?
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| Quote: John Gilbert Reds "Morley at prop?'"
I don't think he ever played for Salford's academy did he? |
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And another point regarding this 'ability to tap into the Manchester area' argument. This 'Manchester area' ignores the fact that the sport is all but non existent in Manchester and only exists in some of the towns and cities around it, where there is a bit of competition from the likes of Wigan, Warrington, Leigh, Rochdale, Oldham, etc. for that talent. I suspect Saints face less competition for talent in the Liverpool area.
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| Quote: Red John "And another point regarding this 'ability to tap into the Manchester area' argument. This 'Manchester area' ignores the fact that the sport is all but non existent in Manchester and only exists in some of the towns and cities around it, where there is a bit of competition from the likes of Wigan, Warrington, Leigh, Rochdale, Oldham, etc. for that talent. I suspect Saints face less competition for talent in the Liverpool area.'"
Indeed, didn't Saints also have a dual reg/tie-in to Rochdale in the last couple of years too?
The truth is that all the scouts for Wigan, Warrington and Saints are regularly seen at amateur grounds certainly around the Oldham/Rochdale/Salford area where there are a number of amateur teams. On top of that, Leeds, Bradford and Hudds scouts plunder the area too, especially in Oldham and Rochdale. So, we have actually have quite a small amount of talent in the Manchester area where half of the SL teams, including Salford, are operating to try and pick up the best talent for their Academies. |
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