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| Quote: GT "No one expected us to compete with Wire this season. However, a game against Wakefield is one we should be competing in, if not winning.
Disgraceful performance last night. Can't blame Noble or Koukash - blame the spineless f*ckers on the pitch who couldn't be bothered. So much for professionalism and any sort of pride in the shirt. That has nothing to do with unrealistic expectations, I can handle us not being good enough, I can't handle us not bloody trying, though.'"
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| Last night was a case of watching a poor quality team play badly. It was dire. I recorded the game but am not sure that I can bring myself to watch any of it again. There was a definite lack of passion from the team last night. The longer the game went on the more confident Wakefield became and the more depressing it became to watch. It's a good job the published attendance figure is not the number of spectators left when the hooter went.
I don't think the Fans' Bar has ever been so empty after a game either.
I have seen some poor performances over many years and last night has got to be there with the worst of them.
I know we lack quality and have lacked it all season, but when Alan Hunte was in charge I felt we tried to play a more expansive game that featured youngsters and was more worth watching. Brian Noble appears to have put his faith in Ryan McGoldrick and for the life of me I cannot see what he brings to the team. I also think we discovered that Lee Gaskell is not a full back.
It will be very interesting to see the team sheet for the St Helens game.
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| Quote: theredshed "I don't buy players not giving it their all regardless of them not being offered new contracts. Let's be honest these players are in the shop window and if we don't offer them a deal who else will in Superleague? This was a great opportunity on Sky tonight for these out of contract players to shine and show they were worth taking a gamble on. After tonight some would be lucky to get a gig in the Championship.'"
there is an element of truth in this no matter how daft it sounds
Apparantly things said in the recent fans meeting found there way back to the dressing room it did not spark a ' positive ' response in last nights performance.
I see absolutely no point in putting players on the pitch who are not going to be part of next season's squad , Best make those decisions now & put in some of the U20's lads .
If we're going to get beat , alt least do it with lads who want to prove something other than how hard done to they are .
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| Going off another thread on this forum re. squad profile, the only permanent players on the field last night with their contracts ending in 2013 were Broughton, Gibson, Godwin and Wild. If the rest aren't up to it, the Dr is going to be spending a heck of a lot buying any other's out...
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| Yes,that was my point,particularly applying to the beaten pack,some of whom are not only contracted for next season but are also recent signings presumably endorsed by the coach
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| According to Last Nights Match Program the Staring Line -up Noble was going with was:-
FB- 22 Marc Sneyd
RW- 2 Jodie Broughton
RC - 3 Ashley Gibson
LC - 4 Martin Gleeson
LW - 5 Danny Williams
SO - 6 Lee Gaskell
SH - 21 Theo Fages
PF - 37 Darrell Griffin
HK - 14 Wayne Godwin
PF - 36 Jacob Emmitt
SR - 20 Adam Neal
SR - 12 Andrew Dixon
LF - 13 Stephen Wild
Bench
Adam Walne , Shannan McPherson - Liam Foran Vic Muaro or Jordan James
So Ashurst & McGoldrick Dropped , Gaskell At Stand Off with Fages , Sneyd still at Full Back , Adam Neal In the Starting 13 , McPherson on the Bench.
How did we end up with McGoldrick back in and 4 other postion changes ?
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| pack was very poor last night and McGoldrick needs to be sent packing ASAP.
Nobby couldnt make a competitive team from this squad, neither could David Blaine.
He needs about 3 seasons to bring in his people, the players he wants and then an off season to gel and compete.
Mean time the Dr needs to whip up a bit of marketing and up the crowds.
I'd be worried if I were a Salford fan, 3 seasons is too long for the Dr to wait.
He said he was in it for the long haul, yet shook his head while saying it - 'nuff said.
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| Quote: GT "No one expected us to compete with Wire this season. However, a game against Wakefield is one we should be competing in, if not winning.
Disgraceful performance last night. Can't blame Noble or Koukash - blame the spineless f*ckers on the pitch who couldn't be bothered. So much for professionalism and any sort of pride in the shirt. That has nothing to do with unrealistic expectations, I can handle us not being good enough, I can't handle us not bloody trying, though.'"
Couldn't put it better.
Quote: GT "Mean time the Dr needs to whip up a bit of marketing and up the crowds.'"
I'd leave that until next year now, or it'll do more damage than good. No point bringing people in, until we have a squad that will compete, last night was embarrassing .
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| you can forget about this season (without having a dig at the RFL)
See what 2014 brings.
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| Worry not, remember this season is now a celebration of your existence.
I'm sure it will all come good in the wash.
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| A little thing that disappointed me on Monday apart from everything else was every time Wakefield went over the players didn't even try and make them ground the ball further away from the sticks to make kicks harder, they just gave up & let them run right under the sticks! I know it's only a small point but for me it just summed up the attitude & lack of fight.
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| Quote: LEDGE787 "A little thing that disappointed me on Monday apart from everything else was every time Wakefield went over the players didn't even try and make them ground the ball further away from the sticks to make kicks harder, they just gave up & let them run right under the sticks! I know it's only a small point but for me it just summed up the attitude & lack of fight.'"
I said the same thing last week at Warrington. Riley went over in the corner and he ran round under the sticks without a hand being put on him. Yes, we were well beaten already, but as you say little things like that signal a lack of fight, effort or enthusiasm
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| Quote: Ave It! "I said the same thing last week at Warrington. Riley went over in the corner and he ran round under the sticks without a hand being put on him. Yes, we were well beaten already, but as you say little things like that signal a lack of fight, effort or enthusiasm'"
It was visually evident from the player’s body language that they didn’t give a stuff. I sympathised with these blokes over the winter but I don’t give a monkeys what happens to them now.
Credit to Wakefield on a solid display but our lot showed no character, creativity or fight. Monday's show was a two fingered gesture to the club and us 2000 mugs that paid to witness it. What peaves me is the difference they showed at magic weekend.
You can accept lack of quality but you cant accept lack of effort and attitude.
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| Quote: dubairl "nigel plum
Junior sau
clark from cas
Depending on the situations and how the players feel,
Adam sidlow
Stef ratchford
Adrian morley
I think they are a realistic signings which would get you clear from the bottom and pushing for the top as long as noble gets them motivated.'"
I can imagine Morley going to his home town club to finish a long career. Ratchford has a contract at Wire ( which means a chunky transfer fee even if he did want to leave ) is already in a top team and was not born in Salford, so hard to imagine him leaving.
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| Quote: dubairl "nigel plum
Junior sau
clark from cas
Depending on the situations and how the players feel,
Adam sidlow
Stef ratchford
Adrian morley
I think they are a realistic signings which would get you clear from the bottom and pushing for the top as long as noble gets them motivated.'"
Which Salford players would you want to keep then? Morley is a dead cert to be back there next year. However he won't get a place in the England team when he joins, i shouldn't be in there now but because he plays for Wire he's in there by default!
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