Wasn't there some reason why we couldn't use Barton? I.e. groundstaff not wanting to over-use the main pitch and the training pitches either not fitting the need of the club or being kept free for people to book?

And the club didn't bother to inform the players of this because?

I know Huntey said that they are not free to use. If he wants to train the scholarship lads on the community pitches he has to hire the pitch. Maybe the hire charges at LSV are more reasonable than Barton.

I wouldn't know but you always seem to have all the answers so I thought you'd enlighten us.

Or are you just an annoying little argumentative little nurk.

Don't start, I run with GT's firm.

Surely that should be toddle with the rest of the Kiddie Winks.

After a 6 month sabatical, I was considering re-entering this forum, but after the last 2 posts by you two children, I've firmly decided not to bloody bother. For god's sake, just meet up in the nearest school playground and pull each others hair for a couple of minutes. Alternatively ....... grow up a little.

With reference to the training arrangements...When I was driving home from work last Thursday evening over the M60 at Barton ,,a team was on the pitch training /going through drills with the floodlights on...made me wonder do Sale have a different arrangement to Salford in their rental agreement with SCS ?. or would it have been Leicester using the pitch?

Think Sale use their own training facilities down in Carrington, you'd think it would be crazy to pay rental to use the stadium but then not have ancillary facilities included in that fee.

But if, as suggested by Iain, they're not free, then you'll only use them if you can't get cheaper facilities elsewhere. You'd think it crazy, but the stadium company and the gym itself are out to make money, so nothing would surprise me. Then again, maybe it will now be free, which is absolutely marvellous. But it brings us back to the point made by Walshy.

To ask the question as to why the players haven't been told about any possible change or the cards not working is a perfectly reasonable question. Not everything is a pop at you, deary.

And my firm of Kiddie Winks would out scratch your firm of Kiddie Winks any day of the week...

Baby rattles at dawn it is then

I would think that the club and the gym would find mutual benefits from a corporate tie in, the club obviously use of the facilities and the gym promotion on match days and possible access to business contacts on match days. Even if they are paying the on site gym is a hell of a lot cheaper than the one in Walkden and has much better facilities.