Is that all you do eccles star. moan moan moan. no one cares that your not getting a season ticket next year. leave the forum and dont come back.

Err no, considering we are still operating now

You really don't have to educate me as to what it takes to be loyal... and how supporting a team during the bad times makes the good times all the sweeter.... for 29 of the last 30 years I have been waiting for those sweeter moments.... and everybody has a breaking point. Last season when we left The Willows... it pretty much ripped out what was left for me... to now have to go to what feels like a soulless shell, and pay £20 to do just that has just left no enjoyment. The whole experience of following Salford feels different now, and it's not enjoyable. It's not so much about just 'rubbish performances'... nothing feels right anymore... and really the passion has been ripped out. I never expect to see my team winning all the time... I'm not even that fussed about winning trophies... as a Salford fan you never come to expect that.... what I do like to see are players treating the shirt with respect. I just don't see that so much these days.

I hear of players complaining all the time... you rarely get a feeling that the players you have are going to be sticking around to give you that feeling of loyalty... so should I show them loyalty in return because after all... they are pretty much using Salford as a stepping stone to better things.

I get to the stadium to watch games and it doesn't feel like home anymore... the family feeling of watching Salford knowing you were all in it together has disappeared... and it bloody hurts. There is always something going on... always rumours and gossip... nothing is ever right for more than a couple of weeks at a time... and it just gets you down.

Despite all that... Cut me open and it says Salford through the middle...it's that reason that makes it just impossible at the moment... it hurts to much to see my club operate like this.

The image on page 1 was taken when the SCR players were warming-up.
They were on the pitch long before the Wigan players made an appearance and the first player,as usual,warming-up was DJ.Surprising if he didn't want to be there.

I did think 2 of the Wigan tries were doubtful,despite the efforts of Tomkins to referee the game and their group of supporters who stand and drum seem to suppress the atmosphere,not add to it.

I'm sure I read somewhere that Wigan didn't even sell out the CCC semi-final at Huddersfield and that was played on a weekend,not on the night of a weekday.

I can't quite believe I have read on here anything anti-Salford........

The Wigan game merely confirmed a few things we have known all season.

Bigger packs will bully us.

Our forwards are not big enough to make the necessary yards.

Steven Howarth, hard though he tries, will never be a scrum half.

Our right side defence continues to disappoint. For me Sean Gleeson is too rooted to the spot defensively - though ball in hand he is very exciting.

We can defend well against those who try to run through us, but struggle massively against those who have the speed and guile to run round us.

We get rattled too easily when decisions go against us.

We don't get many 50/50 decisions.

We need a better kicking game.

We need a tight knit group of players for next season who really want to play for the club.

I hope Phil Veivers and Sean Long can find them.

Patten saved a few tries last night, some fantastic 1 on 1 defence, cutting down players by running the right angle. Barely noticed him in attack, he was just stood out on the wing for a while at one point in the 2nd half.

I still think giving a knockon against Gleeson when he hacked the ball forward with his foot was one of the most bizarre decisions i've seen in a while though.

we see them every week

Excellent. Lectures about supporting your team from the kid who chose to ignore his local club and support Wigan instead, a club from a town he has no connection with, but which just happens to be very successful.

Two things. One, if you don't renew your season ticket then that's even less cash for the club to spend and makes things worse. Two, rather than a holiday, I'd suggest you use the money to buy yourself some English Language lessons instead. I'll give you a starter session for free - it's "our club" and not "are club". The latter makes no sense.

Happy to help and all that...

sorry didnt realise Prestwich was in Salford Swinton Lions would of actually been the local club when I was a kid playing at Gigg Lane but what the hell lets not let facts get in the way of this.

How exactly is it I ignored them?? Oh yeah from when I was a baby and going to watch Wigan play I chose to ignore the local teams because young children always make their own decisions. And yeah I'm old enough to make my own decision and I chose Wigan and its not exactly glory supporting considering we won nothing from wen I was 12-21. Always know when you're on the Salford forum all the intelligent RL fans come out to play.

Oh about how I'm lecturing about supporting my team even though I go every Wigan game home and away?? oh yes one of those arm chair supporter for sure!! Can't exactly moan about it being difficult to get there because it was on Monday, I did this same journey as Salford fans would of had to and had to be up for work at 7 Tuesday morning.

No, not that bit. Thanks for that though. Enjoyable read.