So all these "other" supporters with "prejudices" against the management and running of the club, we are all wrong I take it? Maybe it's people like yourself need to take a step back from defending the club at all cost and realise and openly discuss how under the same structure's the club is not only falling behind but effectively being run into the ground.

Wrong? I'd say the word is 'unaware' of the conditions and constraints the club will be working under. I'm not intentionally defending anybody, I was just looking at the above critisism from a different perspective.

On your point about falling behind other clubs, who would you say Salford are falling behind?
Bradford? Castleford? Wakefield? London? Leigh? Swinton? Rochdale? Halifax? Crusaders? etc . . what is it these clubs doing so well? In my opinion the only clubs we are falling behind are those with either wealthy benefactors or a long tradition of bigger crowds and higher income.

That's not an argument because the same can be applied back to you. There's lots of people who believe the opposite of you and it does not make them wrong either. You have an opinion, they have an opinion. All the points scoring off each other is pointless because you'll never convince someone of the other side that they are wrong.

When someone from either side actually is wrong (And it happens often) they just ignore it or play it off as a one off.

I really don't understand why people just don't sit in the middle and praise when it goes right and slag-off when it goes wrong.

I hear what your saying but this forum is so frustrating. I'm pretty new on here compared to other people and maybe I'm wrong but there is a clique form where a few posters stick together. Now that's fine but what I can gather prior to my time on this forum, negativity if you wish to call it that, I call it constructive criticism has rarely been spoken about. People seem to hold the club and the people that run it in such high regard. If it wasn't Wilkinson putting money into the club it would be some other mug doing it, so don't think he is the messiah as undoubtedly many on here think he is. It's come to the pathetic stage now were, certain people are baiting a reaction or goading posters into making comment, maybe these posters have sad pathetic life's and this virtual social life they have on here is only how they can interact, who knows? No since I obviously have issues with the club regarding the people in the suits, how can they continue to take money out of the club when failing at their job? If you want examples I have numerous and I'll quite happily iron them out because I'm sure of my reasons. Rather than people defending the club, "well we don't have the resources" Actually not everything is money dependent. Their is numerous thing that make this club look amature and still nothing changes? That's another issue. I praise when praise is due but ultimately people don't have notice because we all love praise on this forum but soon as you doubt the club, the same people chip away and won't accept the criticism. What tops it off, when they know we're right and feel the need to comment on grammar, WOW so hurtful. Anyway rant over and because you ask yes I have my violin at the ready!

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Apparently the players have been getting tested at random during training for years. I think the problem is when players go out drinking and have the following day off. I heard the players are called in to training for rehab (Pardon the pun) the day after every match to deter them from going on the p*ss straight after matches. For instance if they play Friday they have to meet early Saturday morning but will have Sunday off.

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