It's all very well slagging off Mcrae but who would want to be Salford's coach at the moment? Some of our most promising young players are leaving and the board have not followed up their promises about the ground and funding.

Yes everyone is bored with the current style of rugby but with Turner, White and Talau out we are going to be short of attacking ideas. I think the whole atmosphere aroung the club would be totally different if we could see a new ground being built. Remember all the players who signed for Salford in the past 2 years, and Mcrae, expected to be playing in a new stadium next year.

Apathy rules at the moment: falling attendances; no new stadium; players leaving; injuries; nothing to play for. I bet there aren't to many players at other clubs desperate to sign for SCR at the moment.

So, we have just got to get on with it and hope 2010 is a whole lot better. Simply a change of coach IMO would change very little.

The Butcher hits the nail on the head for me. I personally don't like SM as a coach but whatever I have against him is not going to get solved by ranting, raving and swearing at the man. I reserve the right to criticise players and coaching staff when I pay my hard earned money to watch them a) repeat the same mistakes week in week out or b)appear to not give a stuff weather we win lose or draw and this is happening on a regular basis. SM has been interviewed on a number of occasions and appears to have no idea why we win or lose. This is not the sign of a good coach in my opinion. There are players who appear to have issues with him. This needs to be investigated by the club and sort out either SM or the players, whoever happens to be at fault becasue at the moment we are drifting. Giving us time is only going to make matters worse if we have the same personnel becasue there are clearly issues that have to be dealt with one way or another. I also call upon any player who doesn't want to play for Salford and is prepared to bide their time waiting for a move to strap on a pair and either go or stand up and be counted. The players and coaching staff have to start giving us something positive to shout about becasue last night was just dire. We have more wins than many people gave us credit for but I wouldn't mind losing some of the games we have if it appeared we were trying.

This whole " some players are unhappy with the coach" irritates me because it happens every time at Salford. Who do these players think they are? ( Obviously if Offiah was everyones agent they would all be world beaters and worth a kings ransom).

I personally think that Salford at too near the edge to start with the player power again. They should have a little more respect for the club and the fans, a poor side and no sign of a stadium will put us in a very very bad position in 12 months time.

i might have gone over the top last night which i am sorry for but it was just a spur of the moment thing and my temper took over my head which like i said i am sorry for!!and a quick message to all the fans on here who slag me off for what i said are pathetic bacuse im the one that goes home and away week in week out where as i know a lot off people on here dont so theses fans who only go to home games because they cant be bothered going away and i know alot of people are going to reply to this saying we do go away but for those who dont go away but have got the cheek to slag me off we get around 3-4 thousand at home and 500 away what does that tell you for some of the fans on here....if you do go home and away then fair play you have your opinion against me but if you can only be bothered going once every 2 weeks dont bother slagging me off and try and go home and away!!!! as i said i am sorry for what happened last night and we will take it from there

cheers.

your apologie should be directed to mcrae which i hope you will be man enough to do. i suggest maybe a little less alcohol in the future may help the situation...

well predicted!

The sooner the likes of Callumisared and Ave it! along with a few other people? are no longer associated with the club the better for all concerned.

The outburst's that they both appear to be admitting to are are an absolute disgrace and they should ashamed of themselves and there is not one decent fan that I have spoken to recently who want this type of person to support the club or even belong to the Forever Reds.

The problem with people like these is that you cannot have a normal discussion with them at any time unless they get tanked up beforehand and it is quite strange when some of their targets are actually in attendance at meetings etc how quiet these people are.

No one is entitled to verbally abuse anybody whether they have paid to watch a match or not and the length of time that some people have been supporting the club(5YRS) is nothing and again does not entitle them to verbally abuse, threaten, or physically assault people(which throwing a pint of beer is)

For what it is worth the players, coaches,officials, directors other staff and supporters are working hard for the club what are these people doing?

The coaches make errors, so do the players, and so do we all but these pale into insignificance compared with damage that the likes of Callumisared and Ave it! are doing with their stupid comments and actions.

Please stay away from now on.

this is the 1st ever time i have a a rant like this so why should i be not allowed in to support its not like i do it every week!!

It that is the case then apologize to Shaun McRae as soon as possible preferably in person and throw an apology the chairman's way as he does not deserve what he his receiving at present.

Absolutely right - some of the posts on here recently have been well over the top - we can all criticise and disagree but to resort to vile personal abuse is never justified and completely counter productive - perhaps some people think it's funny to refer to "the slug" -certainly doesn't make me laugh or have any respect whatever for those who do it.

i'm not d if i go home or away or not at all, the personal abuse you gave to sean mcrae is unwarranted!
you could be a leeds fan, and i would say the same if you abused someone like you did!
i hope you are man enough to apologise to his face.

Dear Callum.......

a lot of the posters, have been going 'home and away' for some 40+ years, just like me.

We've seen it all in that space of time..............from the finest side never to win a major trophy, to heartbreaking semi-final defeats, fantastic 'against all odds wins', and yes, rugby just as poor as you are witnessing at the moment.

It's all part of being a Salford fan.

Don't expect too much, even IF your still going 'home and away' 20 odd years from now. It just might never happen.

I'll forgive your rant, as I want us all to pull together, whatever the outcome.
Just a word of warning though, personal abuse will not be forgiven if it persists, because the truly loyal Salford fans are totally sick to death of it. It's not helping one bit.
So, either put up with what you get from our beloved club, or, give up following Salford.

BTW, I'm 48 years old tomorrow, so you can imagine just how fed up I am about it all.

Happy Birthday to me !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Calm down everyone! What Callumisared has done is wrong, to abuse the coach the way he did and then post about it is utterly stupid.
I remember when i was 18 many moons ago and there were plenty times i said and did things under the influence that i regretted in the morning.Young people make mistakes but its how they learn from them that counts. He has come out and apologised and he should apologise to the club and coach as well.(i don't think he abused JW?)At the end of the day he has not Killed,injured or hit anyone and i think the coach will have a lot more things to worry about than what a drunken 18 year old has said! To start to talk of banning people for one mistake is wrong. I think a warning and a stern talking to is much more appropriate.
The club and coach have to except criticism but it must be done in the right way and through the right channels. This is why we should all join Forever reds to discuss things properly.
The young lads who post on here are very passionate about the club and are not the devils that they have been painted out to be. They all should be encouraged to show that passion in a more positive way.
Lets not all fall out with each other at this difficult time. We all must get behind the club and the coach till the end of the season. Rant over!

Totally agree lets all be positive about the club we love and have a great Birthday to.