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| Who really gives a toss! if it means we have a rugby team to support then I really don't care if were called the 'Baby Barton Carebears'!
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| Quote: Stanley30 "Who really gives a toss! if it means we have a rugby team to support then I really don't care if were called the 'Baby Barton Carebears'!'"
Your in a very small minority. Well based on here anyway
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| Quote: Fungus The Muffin Man "Whilst it would upset the majority of salford fans ( we've discussed it enough times and the forum has self destructed ) would being a manchester team attract all those Greater manchester residents who have gone to watch Wigan/ saints instead?
Does the name of Salford put them of coming due to the negative association of the city and it's residents?'"
This is a very sensitive issue for the few true Salfordians and I fully share their pride in Salford but . .
If you asked 100 people who live within the city of Salford where they are from how many will reply Salford and how many will say Manchester? I would say that over 90% will say Manchester, now ask the same question to people from Warrington, Hull or Leeds etc. The reasons that people from Salford would say Manchester is because it's bigger, more identifiable and Salford is a place that is viewed negatively by others.
The point I'm making is do people from other towns and cities have a higher percentage of folk who are more patriotic and supportive about where they are from? And does this hinder Salford City Reds when trying to grow it's fanbase?
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| Jack has tweeted again in answer to say he was referring to Manchester thunder netball team who have just changed their name NOT Salford Reds
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| As someone who is from neither Salford nor Manchester...
No name change. What, exactly, would it achieve? Are the people of Manchester and the surrounding areas really going to turn up and watch rugby league just because the club is called Manchester? Are they buggery. Would they be more willing to turn up and watch a team called Salford that's actually successful and well run? I'd say so, more so that just because of the name of the club.
Rather than these tired, boring arguments about what the club should be called, we should be concentrating on making the club a success in order to attract new support, not sh*tting all over the club's history.
Quote: Stanley30 "Who really gives a toss! if it means we have a rugby team to support then I really don't care if were called the 'Baby Barton Carebears'!'"
You're a bit of a bell, then.
Quote: Stanley30 "Your in a very small minority. Well based on here anyway'"
I'm intrigued by the highlighted bit.
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| Quote: theredshed "This is a very sensitive issue for the few true Salfordians and I fully share their pride in Salford but . .
If you asked 100 people who live within the city of Salford where they are from how many will reply Salford and how many will say Manchester? I would say that over 90% will say Manchester,
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Totally disagree with your above comment. I reckon 90% would say they're from Salford not manchester. The 10% referring to manchester would be the ones who don't reside in Salford anymore like you probably.
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| Its easy gt. I've only ever had this discussion here and it seems to be an overwhelming no. So I was implying he was in the minority on this forum. I have no idea at all if he is or isn't in a minority out in the real world.
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| OK... Firstly... I'm not in favour of any name change.
But reasons to change from Salford to Manchester wouldn't be directly to attract support... although indirectly it would. In order to attract support the club would need a successful team, and maybe the feeling is that the name 'Manchester' could put the club in a stronger position for attracting players. It would be tagging onto the names of Manchester United and Manchester City... after all... the Manchester name is associated with a successful sporting brand, and would be seen to have more chance to attract sponsorship and top players from the other side of the world... should that happen the hope would be that people would turn up and watch. It could also go the other way as Sale one tried the Manchester name and it bombed.
I'm also pretty sure that many of those who would initially turn their backs would come back should there be a team of stars on the pitch playing an attractive brand of rugby... although the idea of a new FC United type RL club called perhaps Salford Red Devils would be hugely supported and would to some degree be an exciting prospect and would take many fans with it.
Personally... I would watch a team called Manchester Reds... If only because it's rugby league on my doorstep.
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| If you ask anyone in Salford who was born and bred there where they are from they would say Salford.
I have never met a more proud or passionate set of people.
Salford City Reds is more than just a name.
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| Quote: LoyalFan "It would be tagging onto the names of Manchester United and Manchester City... after all... the Manchester name is associated with a successful sporting brand, and would be seen to have more chance to attract sponsorship and top players from the other side of the world'"
This is the biggest myth going.
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| Quote: Philyourboots "Totally disagree with your above comment. '"
That's OK thats what these forums are about. What do you actually define as Salford in your 90%? Central Salford or the entire city that covers 37 square miles? The thing is anyone that answers Manchester is technically right because Salford is in Greater Manchester. Probably what I should have said is if 100 people from Salford were abroad on holiday and asked by someone from say Scotland where are you from?, I think 90% would say Manchester. Although I wouldn't be one of them because I always like to give Salford a plug.
Ask people born in Salford where they were born and that would be a completely different answer.
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| Look at the two biggest cities to play in RL Paris & London anyone who think a name changed would attract more support is deluded. I hardly suspect the people who live in Manchester in areas like Denton, Moston, Mossisde etc are going to come bouncing down to the stadium if we change our name.
It will put the hardcore off coming and without a hardcore you have nothing.
A wining team and good customer service would be all it takes to get the fans down.
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| Be interesting to know exactly how many Salford fans there is with no affiliation to the City at all.
I'd hazard a guess as to more than you may think.
I'd support the Club in whatever guise they go in for. Salford. Manchester. Salford & Manchester Reds. Salford Sharks. Whatever...
It would still be my Club. A name is just a name, it does not erase its history.
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| As I've just posted on KOTS post I'm born, raised and reside in salford.
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In an ideal world Salford would remain Salford but it's far from an ideal world and given a choice of a slowly dieing Salford RLFC or a Salford based thriving regional team run in a professional manner I know which I would vote for.
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