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I think the RFL is correct not to comment YET.

Lets wait and see why the visas are incorrect, what changed from the previous 2 years for the likes of Van Dyke.

As for not having a stadium, neither do we, Wigan, Hull FC etc.

The Welsh game at grass roots has grown, as it has in london and the professional clubs help this happen.

If they are being paid by another employer then there are breaches of the cap, if only in spirit.

However if this is a fraud at many levels the RFL need to punish them.

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Quote: Red Willow "I think the RFL is correct not to comment YET.

Lets wait and see why the visas are incorrect, what changed from the previous 2 years for the likes of Van Dyke.

As for not having a stadium, neither do we, Wigan, Hull FC etc.

The Welsh game at grass roots has grown, as it has in london and the professional clubs help this happen.

If they are being paid by another employer then there are breaches of the cap, if only in spirit.

However if this is a fraud at many levels the RFL need to punish them.'"


There have been similar problems in some of the local cricket leagues with overseas professionals although the visa problems appear to have been picked up before the players landed here.

The contracts are the clubs problem and in cricket copies have to be lodged at the League HQ, in this case Red Hall and presumably a copy of each visa would also be lodged at Red Hall.

There have been rumblings over this matter for some while and it was said that it concerned visas from a couple of years ago but clearly there is more to it than first thought.

What if a weakened Celtic team gets beaten by a large score which results in one team getting into the play offs and another misses out?

Salford City Reds have their own visa/contract expert, step up Mr Steve Simms Esq.

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Quote: SaintsFan "Of course there is room for doubt. There is always room for doubt.

If the players lied on their forms, that alone creates room for doubt. We do not know what they did to attract the punishment they have been given.'"


Sorry pal - you are talking out of your ar!e - the offence is committed by the employer - regardless of the employee lying or attempting to deceive -

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RFL have now issued a statement saying err err...............................


that they are not saying anything, but they don't check players eligability to work in this country.

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Quote: Original Salford City Red "Salford City Reds have their own visa/contract expert, step up Mr Steve Simms Esq.'"


Yep did a good job this year:

1) Getting everyone here
2) Getting a great standard of player here

Didnt get the beers in this year (yet) but 2 out of 3 aint bad. icon_wink.gif

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Quote: The optimist "Yep did a good job this year:

1) Getting everyone here
2) Getting a great standard of player here

Didnt get the beers in this year (yet) but 2 out of 3 aint bad.
You must have been to the toilet then, definately 3 out of 3 for Steve.

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Quote: BartonFlyer "Sorry pal - you are talking out of your ar!e - the offence is committed by the employer - regardless of the employee lying or attempting to deceive -'"

Not true.

The employer has to be guilty of 'knowingly employing' an illegal immigrant for them to be prosecuted. If an employee has lied on their form, fooled the Border Agency and thus been accepted for employment, the only responsible party is the employee. Only if the employer is found to have known about the deception and continued with the employment is the employer also held responsible.

Or so I have just today been advised.

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Shame they can't deport any of our players!

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Quote: Original Salford City Red "You must have been to the toilet then, definately 3 out of 3 for Steve.'"


WHAT!!! What a disgrace, team morale will be at a all time low now i missed the beer run, shocking icon_eek.gif















icon_wink.gif dont worry steve i forgive you.

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Quote: Original Salford City Red "
Salford City Reds have their own visa/contract expert, step up Mr Steve Simms Esq.'"


Hey , wasn't he the Guy who spent three seasons trying to trace kevin Mcguinness Irish Ancestry icon_confused.gif

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Quote: middleman "Hey , wasn't he the Guy who spent three seasons trying to trace kevin Mcguinness Irish Ancestry
Could the Celtic club have employed them this way to get around the National League salary cap? . . and could the RFL have turned a blind eye to it because they ultimately wanted a Welsh team in Superleague?

It would appear that something untowards has gone on here!

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this season they became fulltime professionals and therefore their status changed, meaning they had not played enough NRL games to qualify.

I have it on good authority the Players Union (GMB) normally checked the paperwork for the players as a when of getting them to join the players union. Maybe the official in South Wales didn't check hard enough what the qualifying criteria was.

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According to the BBC there are 13 other clubs whose players were/are playing on the same visas, so get ready for some boat rocking. I assume no points deduction because of the number of clubs and how it would mess up the leagues. It may even be said we might have been doing it but no clubs are named.

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