FORUMS FORUMS






RLFANS.COM
Celebrating
25 years service to
the Rugby League
Community!
  
FORUMS > Salford Red Devils > Sneyd asks for a move
285 posts in 20 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, king of the shed
RankPostsTeam
International Board Member25774No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 200322 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



Quote: jools "The question I was asked was name British scrum halves they could have got for less- so I answered. I hope it works out for Sneyd -as god knows we need an international half back mcbananaman is willing to pick. (I'm sure the Irish cap will be overlooked) but 100k is over the odds IMO.
Few players go for that transfer fee, fewer with just a year left on contract and for just a handful of top level games there's ..... Well..... Who?'"


I asked you to name better scrum halfs than Hull could for 100k.

Of the 4 you named, Fages isn't a better player (currentley), we wouldn't be able to sign Myler and Smith as there clubs wouldn't release them (plus I reckon both would command over 100K), so that would leave Robinson as the only viable option of those mentioned, personally I would rather pay 100K for Sneyd than 50K for Robinson, he is younger with a lot more potential.

Also Sneyd has played 65 games at the top level, not really a handful.

It might not work out for him at Hull and then the 100K woudl seem like a lot, but if we can get a good few years out of him and he can perform to the level he has at Cas, that it is a great investment.

RankPostsTeam
Club Coach10390No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jan 200520 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Feb 2018Sep 2017LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
11969.jpg
Me and are kid (TheButcher) putting the world two rights. ERIC SHAW PREDICTION LEAGUE & PLAY OFFS WINNER 2013 Don't like it? Well Frack off then. Energy & progress for all. Foe is our friend. mitie mouse, Lancetodd, Marshy1, eccles star, Dantes Inferno, Philyourboots, biggunbrad, DAVE@CAS1990, RED LEAGUE, OzWelsh, Red-Devils-PAW, newgroundb4wakey All blocked - Go ahead punk make my day.:11969.jpg



Quote: Dave K. "I asked you to name better scrum halfs than Hull could for 100k.

Of the 4 you named, Fages isn't a better player (currently), we wouldn't be able to sign Myler and Smith as there clubs wouldn't release them (plus I reckon both would command over 100K), so that would leave Robinson as the only viable option of those mentioned, personally I would rather pay 100K for Sneyd than 50K for Robinson, he is younger with a lot more potential.

Also Sneyd has played 65 games at the top level, not really a handful.

It might not work out for him at Hull and then the 100K woudl seem like a lot, but if we can get a good few years out of him and he can perform to the level he has at Cas, that it is a great investment.'"


Personally think Fages is an equally good scrum halve to Sneyd and if I'm honest is a proper scrum halve where Sneyd as has been mentioned before he is more of a stand off. Sneyd is a top quality kicker which adds considerably to his value. I think if Fages and Sneyd both played for 3 years as a scrum halve week in week out Theo would progress into the much better of the two but Sneyd will without doubt become an even better player than he has shown he is this season if Hull surround him with other talented players.

RankPostsTeam
Club Owner5594
JoinedServiceReputation
Jul 200321 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Oct 2023Aug 2021LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
6329_1327085433.jpg
...Diagnosing SBD (Sporting Bipolar Disorder) since 2003... Negs bringing down the tone of your forum? Keyboard Bell-endery tiresome? Embarrassed by some of your own fans? Then you need... TheButcher I must be STOPPED!! Vice Chairman of The Scarlet Turkey Clique Grand Wizard Shill of Nibiru Prime & Dark Globe Champion Chairman of 'The Neil Barker School for gifted Clowns' "A Local Forum. For Local People":d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6329.jpg



Quote: Dave K. "I asked you to name better scrum halfs than Hull could for 100k.

Of the 4 you named, Fages isn't a better player (currentley), we wouldn't be able to sign Myler and Smith as there clubs wouldn't release them (plus I reckon both would command over 100K), so that would leave Robinson as the only viable option of those mentioned, personally I would rather pay 100K for Sneyd than 50K for Robinson, he is younger with a lot more potential.

Also Sneyd has played 65 games at the top level, not really a handful.

It might not work out for him at Hull and then the 100K woudl seem like a lot, but if we can get a good few years out of him and he can perform to the level he has at Cas, that it is a great investment.'"


You're arguing so vociferously on this subject I'm beginning to wonder who you're trying to convince, us or yourself?

icon_wink.gif

RankPostsTeam
International Board Member25774No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 200322 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



Quote: TheButcher "You're arguing so vociferously on this subject I'm beginning to wonder who you're trying to convince, us or yourself?


I need no convincing, I think it is great money spent, such limited good halfbacks in world rugby, he is the type of player we would have missed out on a few years ago. If you had seen the amount of injured or poor halfbacks I have seen at Hull the last few years, you would also be getting excited like me. I suppose its the same as Salford fans seeing poor players over the last few years or their best players being sold, you have to enjoy the good moments. icon_biggrin.gif

RankPostsTeam
International Star293No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Dec 201311 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jun 2017Nov 2016LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



Quote: Michigan red "Personally think Fages is an equally good scrum halve to Sneyd and if I'm honest is a proper scrum halve where Sneyd as has been mentioned before he is more of a stand off. Sneyd is a top quality kicker which adds considerably to his value. I think if Fages and Sneyd both played for 3 years as a scrum halve week in week out Theo would progress into the much better of the two but Sneyd will without doubt become an even better player than he has shown he is this season if Hull surround him with other talented players.'"


Fages has been very underwhelming this season, he needs to step up and improve dramatically in my opinion. Still wouldn't surprise me if he was named young player of year again though, he can't do anything wrong if you beleive people. Theo has to be loaned out for me and prove himself like Sneyd has done this season.

What makes me laugh, since Sneyd put in be request some of our fans have come out with, well he's only got a good boot. Now the Cas fans who where quite frankly obsessed with the opportunity of signing him, they are coming out well, he only had a good half a season and we got Roberts coming over with X amount of games under his belt and is the better option. Don't know why fans of both sides turn soon as a player decided to leave or choose another club. As a fan, I would of live Marc to have stay but circumstances have meant he see's his future elsewhere. Again as a fan, I'm disappointed another youth product (if you beleive people we don't produce any) will be plying his trade elsewhere next season. We now have numerous players from out system dotted around SL, I would like to keep these players and have home grown core from SRD. Fans may have not got their back up over MS moving on as we as a club are in much better position to sign better players. There may be the odd few like myself that would rater have a team full of, Evalds, Sneyd, Walne brothers, Davidson, Owen rather than players such as J Murphy, McGoldrick, Muallaney, T Smith, S Rapira, T Lee, the list could go on TBH.

Ps for the grammar police sorry if there is a couple mistakes, I'm in my phone.

RankPostsTeam
Club Coach340No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
May 200520 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Mar 2016Mar 2016LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
15113.gif
:15113.gif



Quote: builditandtheycome "Ps for the grammar police sorry if there is a couple mistakes, I'm in my phone.'"


icon_eek.gif
How big is your phone?

RankPostsTeam
International Star293No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Dec 201311 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jun 2017Nov 2016LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



Samsung D500

RankPostsTeam
Club Owner5594
JoinedServiceReputation
Jul 200321 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Oct 2023Aug 2021LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
6329_1327085433.jpg
...Diagnosing SBD (Sporting Bipolar Disorder) since 2003... Negs bringing down the tone of your forum? Keyboard Bell-endery tiresome? Embarrassed by some of your own fans? Then you need... TheButcher I must be STOPPED!! Vice Chairman of The Scarlet Turkey Clique Grand Wizard Shill of Nibiru Prime & Dark Globe Champion Chairman of 'The Neil Barker School for gifted Clowns' "A Local Forum. For Local People":d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6329.jpg



Quote: builditandtheycome "Fages has been very underwhelming this season, he needs to step up and improve dramatically in my opinion. Still wouldn't surprise me if he was named young player of year again though, he can't do anything wrong if you beleive people. Theo has to be loaned out for me and prove himself like Sneyd has done this season.

What makes me laugh, since Sneyd put in be request some of our fans have come out with, well he's only got a good boot. Now the Cas fans who where quite frankly obsessed with the opportunity of signing him, they are coming out well, he only had a good half a season and we got Roberts coming over with X amount of games under his belt and is the better option. Don't know why fans of both sides turn soon as a player decided to leave or choose another club. As a fan, I would of live Marc to have stay but circumstances have meant he see's his future elsewhere. Again as a fan, I'm disappointed another youth product (if you beleive people we don't produce any) will be plying his trade elsewhere next season. We now have numerous players from out system dotted around SL, I would like to keep these players and have home grown core from SRD. Fans may have not got their back up over MS moving on as we as a club are in much better position to sign better players. There may be the odd few like myself that would rater have a team full of, Evalds, Sneyd, Walne brothers, Davidson, Owen rather than players such as J Murphy, McGoldrick, Muallaney, T Smith, S Rapira, T Lee, the list could go on TBH.

Ps for the grammar police sorry if there is a couple mistakes, I'm in my phone.'"


Some good points.

I'm a Salford fan who thought Sneyd was good for us. Not consistent but well above average. All this in a poor team at the time. I haven't seen anything to change my mind after watching him for Cas. He's had some good performances and some poor ones. The difference being he's been playing in a better side than last seasons Salford side. I don't buy all the Cas fans saying he's made vast improvements under their coaching in comparison. They're basing that on the fact that he's performed well overall so far in a team that's riding a crest of a wave. If they'd have struggled in the table so far but Sneyd played the same they wouldn't be making the same calls. Plus most of it stems from the 'we want to keep him at all costs' brigade.

I can't speak for anyone else, but the loss of Sneyd for me isn't hitting me hard. For the simple reason that the players ahead of him in the pecking order at Salford are, in my opinion, much better. If we didn't have Chase or Dobson it would be hitting much harder.

RankPostsTeam
International Board Member1642No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 200322 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Apr 2015Apr 2015LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

Someday, somewhere, today’s empires are tomorrow’s ashes.:



Quote: TheButcher "
Some good points.

I'm a Salford fan who thought Sneyd was good for us. Not consistent but well above average. All this in a poor team at the time. I haven't seen anything to change my mind after watching him for Cas. He's had some good performances and some poor ones. The difference being he's been playing in a better side than last seasons Salford side. I don't buy all the Cas fans saying he's made vast improvements under their coaching in comparison. They're basing that on the fact that he's performed well overall so far in a team that's riding a crest of a wave. If they'd have struggled in the table so far but Sneyd played the same they wouldn't be making the same calls. Plus most of it stems from the 'we want to keep him at all costs' brigade.

I can't speak for anyone else, but the loss of Sneyd for me isn't hitting me hard. For the simple reason that the players ahead of him in the pecking order at Salford are, in my opinion, much better. If we didn't have Chase or Dobson it would be hitting much harder.'"

I agree with that. We can only go by what we see, and we've seen Marc more than most over the past few years. Like any other player, he's had good games and bad games, but I don't think he's ever achieved the heights Rangi has achieved for us at times this season. On the two occasions we've faced him this year, he's been pretty anonymous, while, each time, Rangi has been far more effective (particularly in the game at ours, where he turned in a MoM performance). While it's always disappointing to see a home grown player leave, I'm pretty happy with the way things have turned out.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach1301No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jan 201015 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Mar 2022Mar 2022LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



First and foremost,I'm happy with the way things have turned out with us having Chase and Dobson,with Sneyd now developing his career elsewhere.
Drinks all round.
Maybe I'm not the best judge of a young player but I didn't think Sneyd had this in him. He has come on leaps and bounds since he went to Cas. What we don't know is whether he would have matured so well had he had another season with us.
I don't think they'll let Theo go out on loan but ,unless he gets the necessary game time,his development could stall.

RankPostsTeam
International Star299No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Sep 201311 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Sep 2015Sep 2015LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



Not wishing any ills on the lad ,but if he was to pick up a lengthy injury , would we be responsible for his rehab still .

RankPostsTeam
Club Coach10390No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jan 200520 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Feb 2018Sep 2017LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
11969.jpg
Me and are kid (TheButcher) putting the world two rights. ERIC SHAW PREDICTION LEAGUE & PLAY OFFS WINNER 2013 Don't like it? Well Frack off then. Energy & progress for all. Foe is our friend. mitie mouse, Lancetodd, Marshy1, eccles star, Dantes Inferno, Philyourboots, biggunbrad, DAVE@CAS1990, RED LEAGUE, OzWelsh, Red-Devils-PAW, newgroundb4wakey All blocked - Go ahead punk make my day.:11969.jpg



I think the quote from the Doc on the BBC last night was telling, he said that Hull paid more for Sneyd than he himself would have paid and that the fee was more than £100,000.

Pretty obvious based on this that we got a brilliant deal for him.

RankPostsTeam
Moderator3221No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 200520 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Aug 2024Aug 2020LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
13373_1293476827.jpg
"I need to be myself, I can't be no-one else":d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_13373.jpg

Moderator


Quote: the red fusilier "Not wishing any ills on the lad ,but if he was to pick up a lengthy injury , would we be responsible for his rehab still .'"


Yes, as he is still a Salford contracted player.

RankPostsTeam
International Chairman4918
JoinedServiceReputation
Feb 200223 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
May 2016May 2016LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
cartoons/WB35.gif
:cartoons/WB35.gif



Is it not different for a season long loan?

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach1301No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jan 201015 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Mar 2022Mar 2022LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



I'm not sure this is a big issue.
He's currently on a relatively small contract and I would guess Cas are fully responsible because , as Red Willow rightly says, it'll be different when it's a season long loan.
If there is a problem,it would come if he was injured and not fit enough to start the season with Hull.
We could speculate all day but it really depends what the transfer documents say

285 posts in 20 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, king of the shed
285 posts in 20 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, king of the shed



All views expressed are those of the author and not necessarily those of the RLFANS.COM or its subsites.

Whilst every effort is made to ensure that news stories, articles and images are correct, we cannot be held responsible for errors. However, if you feel any material on this website is copyrighted or incorrect in any way please contact us using the link at the top of the page so we can remove it or negotiate copyright permission.

RLFANS.COM, the owners of this website, is not responsible for the content of its sub-sites or posts, please email the author of this sub-site or post if you feel you find an article offensive or of a choice nature that you disagree with.

Copyright 1999 - 2024 RLFANS.COM

You must be 18+ to gamble, for more information and for help with gambling issues see https://www.begambleaware.org/.



Please Support RLFANS.COM


5.435546875:5
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
6m
Dan Norman Retires
Cokey
1
18m
Film game
Boss Hog
5617
23m
Rumours thread
LyndsayGill
2514
35m
2025 fixtures
Smiffy27
15
49m
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
63219
60m
2025 Recruitment
Rafa9
192
Recent
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
rugbyleague8
6
Recent
Fixtures
Willzay
13
Recent
Game - Song Titles
Boss Hog
40727
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
36s
Dual Reg
financialtim
6
40s
Fixtures 2025
Ellam
63
42s
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
Steve0
4009
44s
Out of contract 2025
rubber ducki
62
1m
Dan Norman Retires
Cokey
1
1m
Salford placed in special measures
FIL
94
1m
2025 Kit
Wigan Bull
12
1m
Red Devils sign International forward
His Bobness
2
1m
Transfer Talk V5
Whino4life
497
2m
Noah Booth out on loan
Wollo-Wollo-
19
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Dan Norman Retires
Cokey
1
TODAY
How many games will we win
REDWHITEANDB
2
TODAY
Leigh Leopards - 2025 Fixtures
ColD
2
TODAY
Catalan Away
Dannyboywt1
4
TODAY
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
2025 fixtures
Smiffy27
15
TODAY
Fixtures
Willzay
13
TODAY
Salford
rubber ducki
8
TODAY
WCC Off
Choc Ice
11
TODAY
Leeds away first up
PopTart
39
TODAY
Jake McLoughlin
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Assistant Coach - Langley
The Biffs Ba
28
TODAY
Noah Booth out on loan
Wollo-Wollo-
19
TODAY
Luke Gale testimonial match
BarnsleyGull
2
TODAY
England 5 - 0 Ireland
Sadfish
1
TODAY
Magic Weekend 2025 - Back To Newcastle
RLFANS News
1
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
2025 Betfred Super League Fixt..
309
Magic Weekend 2025 - Back To N..
504
England Beat Samoa To Take Tes..
1255
England's Women Demolish The W..
1079
England Beat Samoa Comfortably..
1318
Operational Rules Tribunal –..
1108
IMG-RFL club gradings released..
1364
Wakefield Trinity Win Champion..
1910
Hunslet Secure Promotion After..
2128
Trinity Into Play Off Final Af..
2372
Wigan Warriors Crowned Champio..
1945
York Valkyrie Win Back to Back..
2180
Hunslet Book Relegation Play O..
2646
Penrith Panthers Secure Fourth..
2074
Wigan Humiliate Leigh For Gran..
2152