Exactly the answer I was expecting. Is it any wonder players leave when they can come on here and see what their own 'fans' think of them?

Here maybe



[iNot only are you putting people off going to the game with your incessant slagging off the club,[/i

Still can't see where it says poor attendances are the results of posts on this forum.

So your telling me the likes of Feka, Vinnie Anderson, Luke adamson etc would get super league contracts at any other team for the same amount of money they're on here?

The players who know they can better themselves do: Myler, Ratchford, Gleeson, Smith being prime examples. Patten not wanting to the third year option in his contract is another. Most players can't wait to get out of the club the ones who know they can't better themselves are happy to stay at Salford. I really don't get how you cannot see this?

And as for your comment about leaving because of what 'fans' think of them, give me a break it's only the better players that are leaving as I've mentioned the others don't care what the 'fans' think as long as they're getting a wage.

Some of our fans beggar belief.

Most of what Black Cat say's is right.But who ever put on here that people who say anything against the club
is stopping people going is on another planet.

Tedious, the club is badly run and no there is nothing we can do about it unless one of us wins the euro millions, for the people who think it's all rosy still your not worth wasting time on your heads will be firmly routed in that sand even if we end up at Swinton's level. Heard an advert today on the radio ''Salford City Reds...new stadium new attitude'' Oh how I laughed. I can't see a silver lining atm.

This was being advertised on the screens under the south stand at the Huddersfield game:



(Oh, and the clock is an hour behind)

Has as already been stated, stating that people are being put off going to matches because of this forum suggests that it has at least a hand in our poor attendances. Do you really think attendances are low because of negativity on here, even in any small way?



It's one of those natural evolving topics, to be fair. I think any discussion is better had in public, although I don't particularly see what there is to discuss? To suggest this forum has an affect on attendences is ridiculous and ignores many of the actual issues behind people not coming to watch the match.



There is a lack of unity, but I think it's a wider issue than just people disagreeing on this forum. A forum which, let's be fair, most of our supporters don't read. It's only a small minority of Salford fans who come on here. To suggest a lot of non-attenders, both of this forum and not of this forum, don't come anymore because of perceived negativity on here is, as I've already said, ridiculous.

This sentence

"putting people off going to the game with your incessant slagging off the club" (no mentions of posts on this forum).

Is not the same as this sentence

"poor attendances are down to posts on this message board"

Some people have conveniently concentrated on one line in my post, misinterpreted it and missed the bigger picture I was trying to paint.

So I'll put it another way.

If someone continually slaggs of SCR to people they live, work and socialise with. Are those people likely to have negative perceptions about SCR because of what they hear from said person?

I don't want to form an opinion based on the conjecture that appears on this board because most of it invariably turns out to be [is[/ihite (we're fielding Kevin Sinfield and moving back to the Willows, remember). I don't know what these players are on, so can you tell me? I also don't know what offers (if any) they've had from other clubs, so can you tell me that too?


Ratchford and Smith both signed extended contracts, as recently as 18 months ago in Smith's case. Presumably, then, the club was OK then and has only become crap since. Actually, it might be more recent than that. In an interview I heard, Matty Smith sounded genuinely disappointed that he was sold before the end of the season. Does this mean we can fix on a date of some time last month? I could be wrong, but the 'everything the club does is wrong' circle jerk has been going on for a lot longer than that. It certainly seems like it.

Luke Patten is retiring. He said so in an interview. If he just wanted away, he'd have fixed himself up with another club wouldn't he? His form (in attack, at least) suggests to me that a number of clubs would be interested in him, but, as far as we know, he isn't moving. He is just retiring.

Meanwhile, Danny Williams and a number of academy players (Fages and England international Ford to name but two) have signed extended contracts in the past couple of months. Are they not good enough? Or is it that you - from the terraces - know something that they - inside the club - don't?



Well I'm sorry that not everyone wants to join the circle jerk. It must be a real ball ache that we're not all prepared to treat conjecture as immutable fact, but I'm afraid some of us aren't. I'm open minded about the state of the club, and will remain so until I see some hard evidence. That isn't going to appear on this forum, which gets more like a nursery school sand pit every day and seems to be driving the more sensible posters away. I think I'll join them.

Bad mouthing the club,chairman,directors,staff and certain players on a regular basis doesn't help though,does it?

Well said Red John, one of their former targets actually found a Superleague club after his time here Ian Sibbitt.