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Quote: Fatboys Limb "Not wanting to let the truth get in the way of a good rant, but isn't it actually our coach who selects the players he wants to sign, and Simms simply does the deal with the player/agent?'"


Correct, but most of the anti Simms brigade can't see that.

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Quote: billybradshawsmum "Correct, but most of the anti Simms brigade can't see that.'"


No wonder, all he does is enjoy free holidays in Australia at our expense?! icon_evil.gif


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Quote: billybradshawsmum "Correct, but most of the anti Simms brigade can't see that.'"


So does that actually mean you blame Mcrea then Shirl? Or are you protecting Simms?

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Friday night what a load of rubbish all I can say is thank god we have a few years to sort this out.

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Quote: billybradshawsmum "Correct, but most of the anti Simms brigade can't see that.'"


Simms does nothing that he can be held accountable for. So looks like he's got a job for life.

As long as he sorts out one of his mates with the coaching job again when Mcrae goes though we'll be alright. icon_rolleyes.gif

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Simms was on the stage before the game in the Willows. He said Quins are different to Cas and Wakey(I believe) in that we will come down the middle. What a shock it must have been for him when we scored after 90 seconds in the corner. Followed by stacks more in the corner. Does he not watch the opponents videos. We played the same against Manly etc. Bizarre.

Does he also not think teams change tactics to out do the opposition and expose weaknesses.

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Quote: wire-quin "Simms was on the stage before the game in the Willows. He said Quins are different to Cas and Wakey(I believe) in that we will come down the middle. What a shock it must have been for him when we scored after 90 seconds in the corner. Followed by stacks more in the corner. Does he not watch the opponents videos. We played the same against Manly etc. Bizarre.

Does he also not think teams change tactics to out do the opposition and expose weaknesses.'"


Quinns watch the vidoes of the other two games and come up with a game plan similar to them as these exposed our weaknesses good coaching.
McRae assumes that the Quinns would not do that but stick to their usual game Like the Reds do poor coaching

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Quote: red13pjb "I don't want a household name!!!! John Monie wasn't a household name til he went to Wigan and look what he did.'"


He may not have been one here, but he won the NRL (or NSWRL as it was then) with Parramatta in 1986.

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john sharp would be a good shout, he got hudds defence pretty solid

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I go back many years now but we had another figure at this club who fulfilled much the same role as Mr Simms (namely Albert White). He signed a load of crap as well and while successive coaches were sacked he sat in his ivory tower immune from public criticism and secure in his job.

History is repeating itself!!! If it is Mcrae that signs them then what is Simms job and why are we paying him money to do PISS ALL.

One out ALL out for the management please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Quote: red13pjb "I go back many years now but we had another figure at this club who fulfilled much the same role as Mr Simms (namely Albert White). He signed a load of crap as well and while successive coaches were sacked he sat in his ivory tower immune from public criticism and secure in his job.
History is repeating itself!!! If it is Mcrae that signs them then what is Simms job and why are we paying him money to do mickey ALL.

One out ALL out for the management please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!'"


You can't be serious, Albert White's role at Salford was chief scout, Simms is football director and he's only responsible for negotiating player deals and has nothing to do with deciding who we sign. The role of Simms is to talk to agents and determine who is available and then pass that on to the coach to decide who he wants.

As for Albert White signing crap i disagree, imo he signed some good players on a very limited budget over his years at the club.

I know for a fact that White could identify every decent kid on the circuit but we just couldn't compete financially and we didn't have the same pulling power against the likes of Wigan, Saints, Warrington and Widnes.

Lets stop calling for every coaches & managers heads every time the team is going through a bad patch because the players aren't performing. It's obvious from some players body language that we have a couple of very bad eggs in our team/squad at the moment so let the coach/managers do their jobs and smoke the overpaid rats out one by one!

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Its a bad patch but can you see any light at the end of the tunnel?, We are going to ride it out as there is nobody better out there to replace Mcrae

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You mean the over paid rats that they signed!!!!!!!!!

People keep saying that simms does all the negotiating. What are his qualifications for that job? Football dirctor my armpit!! Jobs for the boys.... same old story. we are wasting money on him that could be used to buy better quality players.

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Quote: red13pjb "You mean the over paid rats that they signed!!!!!!!!!

People keep saying that simms does all the negotiating. What are his qualifications for that job? Football dirctor my armpit!! Jobs for the boys.... same old story. we are wasting money on him that could be used to buy better quality players.'"


I believe It's the coach that ultimately decides who Salford sign within their player budget and not Steve Simms. I'm informed that Simms discusses with agents which players are available and roughly what the players terms are and then he goes to the coach with a long list of players out of contract.

Just because Simms negotiates the contracts after the coach tells Simms he wants players X,Y & Z does not mean Simms is responsible for choosing who Salford sign.

As for Simms qualifications for negotiating contracts, he's been doing the job for several years now so I'm pretty sure he's qualified more than most to negotiate financial terms with players agents!

As for the overpaid rats comment, let's just say teams never know what you have until after they have signed certain players. It's a risk signing any player and the bad eggs don't always surface straight away. I'm sure all clubs suffer them, it's how you deal with them that counts.

As for wasting money on Simms that could be spent on better players isn't true because Simms salary is not in the players salary cap. . . and as far as I'm aware Salford are their maximum cap for their level of income.

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