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Quote: Derek Smalls "Arrrggh. I am sorry to keep going on about this (as I know there are undoubtedly more important things to focus on) but why are people under the illusion that all we should sell in the shop is clothing, especially as much of it has a limited shelf life?'"



i don't think anyone is, but they are the items that people predominately purchase. The rest are items, which as mentioned on here, people tend to pick up as an additional item or when giving their kids a couple of quid at each game. the club has to ensure that any item it invests in can be sold and make a decent return. Given the tight budget, the club is right to limit its range, focus on items with the greatest profit margin and suppliment these with a limited but varied range of items which fit lower price brackets

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when money is tight the club are not going to buy stock they cant guarantee they wont sell, been a huge own goal with the away shirts needed more or a balance when it comes to picking sizes to sell, there is some good stuff in the shop but its a bit expensive but the club need to make sure they dont lose on items so i guess it has a high mark up price

The online shop needs fixing badly, we do some good stuff online with the social media but website and online shop is reaily bad at times, cant understand what the big problem is unless we have subcontraced the running of it out (to keep our costs down) and the company isnt up to it.

Hopefully the club will realise that merchandise is a big money maker if you get the right stuff in at the right price and it might fullfill the demands us fans require when it comes to official merchandise

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Quote: Diavolo Rosso "polo shirts and t-shirts with the classic devil on and such like.'"


I must disagree about the devil.This now has a global market lost to Man.U.where people who never attend Old Trafford get their hands on their branding.rlHererl.Our club crest is the ball with Salford City Reds.This is the logo which should be attached to everything.Apart from the replica home shorts,the only things red are a few polos shirts.The club needs to push on or the other lot will take advantage !
I would like track suits,(with club logo)sweatshirts,etc.For the elderly who sit in the seats,how about red blankets,with club logo on,and rlhip flasksrl,for motorists,stickers and flags,and all manner of car accessories.For youngsters,bed covers,lunch boxes,flasks,pencil cases etc.and involve the council/university crime prevention departments and do what Leeds did in the 80's,have local police handing out cards with players photos on one side and health/drugs/anti-crime advice on the other.(page 46 May RLW.)
Umbrellas and golf accessories with club logos on sell well at other clubs.
Lower league clubs and lower league soccer clubs all do better than Salford - as do those Super League clubs that most supporters would like us to finish higher in the league ladder come the end of the season.
Those items which don't sell can be sold at an end of season sale or at a lesser price when next seasons items are sold.
Diaries and calendars may also sell well as they make useful presents.

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Isn't merchandise to some degre a loss leader?
You need to get the clubs name and image out there and cheaper t shirts and the like are a way to do that. Often thought that the club should sell t shirts more focusing on Salford as a city rather than Salford the club (but obviously with the clubs name/branding on it somewhere), maybe something to do with Lowry ( a spoof picture of the new stadium with Lowryesque figures), the contrast of the new buildings at say Media City but then put the lyrics to Dirty Old Town on the back. Pretty certain the club could get a small local manufacturor involved who would be more willing to produce the shirts in the numbers and sizes we require rather than running out midseason and not being able to get any more.

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I have some promotional product mag in front of me www4imprint.co.uk

They have promotional golf umbrellas 2 panel with 1 printed

£6.49 each with a minimum of 24 per order. (+£40 for the screen print)

The club could sell them for £10+ easily.

Messanger bags 2.59 for minimum 50 (plus £40 for screen print)

Cool bags 2.09 (minimum 50) (£40 screen print)

No idea if the screen print would be payable on each category or not.

Using social media they could ask fans to vote or pre order items.

Anything has to be better than what we have.

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Quote: Michigan red "Isn't merchandise to some degree a loss leader?


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it is when we do it ..ie don't get your design / order into place to overseas source and ' sweat your assets' :- bring in in time for xmas pre season , buy cheaper sell high to the hardcore , mid way through the season then be discounting the stock strip to get cash out of the stock whilst there is still enough interest .

they had to pay through the nose to a UK supplier , probably can't afford to discount strip as easily and still return a reasonable margin , and that spells trouble .

I'm guessing there deal with Kooga clothing means they can't just bring in supplementary tee's or polo shirts ,

they need to be sitting down with potential new Shirt suppliers and agreeing designs for 2013 NOW, orders need to be placed in July/Aug to allow for extended lead time and/or rejections of initial samples.


Liked the Forever reds Tee's , when they were done , also the calenders .

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Quote: Michigan red "Isn't merchandise to some degree a loss leader?
You need to get the clubs name and image out there '"


Merchandising is so important Man City have a shop at The Arndale Centre and in Abu Dhabi !
For people who cannot afford player sponsorship it makes them feel as though they are not only contributing to assist the club,but also to be part of the club.
Should the players reach Wembley would the club still have the same attitude to merchandise in the club shop ?

Getting the clubs name and image out there is hugely important.

rlSome ideas from the noisy neighboursrl

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Maybe we should put 3 gold stars on our club badge?

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Quote: SCR-SeaDiver "Merchandising is so important Man City have a shop at The Arndale Centre and in Abu Dhabi !
For people who cannot afford player sponsorship it makes them feel as though they are not only contributing to assist the club,but also to be part of the club.
Should the players reach Wembley would the club still have the same attitude to merchandise in the club shop ?

Getting the clubs name and image out there is hugely important.

rlSome ideas from the noisy neighboursrl'"


Yeah and just like their stadium there always empty! We might as well have Gary Cook as our chief exec as well dunno who'd be worse, him or Tarry! icon_lol.gif

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Quote: SCR-SeaDiver "I must disagree about the devil.This now has a global market lost to Man.U.where people who never attend Old Trafford get their hands on their branding.rlHererl.Our club crest is the ball with Salford City Reds.This is the logo which should be attached to everything.Apart from the replica home shorts,the only things red are a few polos shirts.The club needs to push on or the other lot will take advantage !
I would like track suits,(with club logo)sweatshirts,etc.For the elderly who sit in the seats,how about red blankets,with club logo on,and rlhip flasksrl,for motorists,stickers and flags,and all manner of car accessories.For youngsters,bed covers,lunch boxes,flasks,pencil cases etc.and involve the council/university crime prevention departments and do what Leeds did in the 80's,have local police handing out cards with players photos on one side and health/drugs/anti-crime advice on the other.(page 46 May RLW.)
Umbrellas and golf accessories with club logos on sell well at other clubs.
Lower league clubs and lower league soccer clubs all do better than Salford - as do those Super League clubs that most supporters would like us to finish higher in the league ladder come the end of the season.
Those items which don't sell can be sold at an end of season sale or at a lesser price when next seasons items are sold.
Diaries and calendars may also sell well as they make useful presents.'"


Sorry, but I don't agree with you there.

Our devil is something to be heralded. We are the original red devils, our devil ( if they use the old style stick devil, not the McRae one) is our heritage. It's nothing like the unied one and the stuff that the club shop has in with it looks uber cool IMO. The city reds logo is ok to use, but we should be using a combination of the 2 with mabe the devil to appeal to the older demographic who the heritage part of the club appeals to.


Now if they sold items like those on red willows post I'd buy much more bits from the club shop such as car accessories etc.....

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Quote: SCR-SeaDiver "Merchandising is so important Man City have a shop at The Arndale Centre and in Abu Dhabi !'"


Yeah, which is seemingly always empty.

You comments on the red devil are also a bit silly. The badge is ours and should be something we're proud of, rather than hiding it away just because United have been using a devil for years.

Simple and effective merchandising is not hard to pull off. Salford could manage it easily.

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Quote: Fungus The Muffin Man "
Our devil is something to be heralded. We are the original red devils, our devil ( if they use the old style stick devil, not the McRae one) is our heritage. It's nothing like the united one and the stuff that the club shop has in with it looks uber cool IMO. The city reds logo is ok to use, but we should be using a combination of the 2 with mabe the devil to appeal to the older demographic who the heritage part of the club appeals to.
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I don't really have an issue with the devil - but why didn't the club go with that instead of the 'City Reds' for the branding.It should have been one or the other;or both,as you suggest.
Leeds went from Loiners to Rhinos.Warrrington from Wire to Wolves.Widnes from Chemics to Vikings.
Presumably to capture the interest/imagination of children,and thereafter the family market.It must have worked as they draw larger attendances and their club badges/logos/crests are easily recognised.
There is not a red devil on the shirts.I cannot be a walking advertising board when wearing a track suit with a small red devil on it.
Perhaps the club should make the decision now as to how it wants to go - with or without the red devil or with or without the 'Salford City Reds' logo.No other club seems to be holding onto it's history but have moved forward under one umbrella/all rowing in the same direction.
When that happens we may get some items in the shop we would all like to purchase at a price which will make the shop have more custom than the expensive Man City shops.
( I should point out that FCUM,Man City,and Lancs.Cricket Club all have one crest that supporters can relate to.)

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The club missed the perfect oppertunity to rebrand before we moved to Barton. Had a new mascot in place, maybe a revamped badge all to coincide with a new stadium to play in. Easily could have made a big thing about new image and new stadium going hand in hand.

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Quote: SCR-SeaDiver "
Perhaps the club should make the decision now as to how it wants to go - with or without the red devil or with or without the 'Salford City Reds' logo.
( I should point out that FCUM,Man City,and Lancs.Cricket Club all have one crest that supporters can relate to.)'"


Lancs have two crests, the traditional red rose and the 'Lightning' logo for one day games. city sell a retro range with their old club crest on, and FC Utd have alternative merchandise with the more discreet 'FCUM' lettering for those who prefer that to the club crest. No harm in Salford giving people a choice between the devil and club crest.

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Quote: Karlos13 "Lancs have two crests, the traditional red rose and the 'Lightning' logo for one day games. city sell a retro range with their old club crest on, and FC Utd have alternative merchandise with the more discreet 'FCUM' lettering for those who prefer that to the club crest. No harm in Salford giving people a choice between the devil and club crest.'"


Valid point - well presented.I have checked and,of course,you are correct. icon_surprised.gifops:
Now if the new track suits had some lettering around the devil...

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NRL 17 St.George26-6Dolphins
NRL 17 Penrith6-16NQL Cowboys
NRL 17 Sydney40-6Wests
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CH 13 Toulouse20-0Featherstone
CH 13 Doncaster18-8Swinton
NRL 17 NZ Warriors32-16Brisbane
NRL 17 Newcastle34-26Parramatta
NRL 17 Melbourne16-6Canberra
MINT2024 1 France M8-40England M
WINT2024 1 FRANCE W0-42ENGLAND W
Fri 28th Jun
NRL 17 Canterbury15-14Cronulla
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Mens Betfred Super League XXVIII ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wigan 14 403 164 239 24
St.Helens 15 423 162 261 22
Hull KR 15 383 201 182 22
Warrington 15 358 213 145 20
Salford 15 295 288 7 20
Catalans 15 288 220 68 18
 
Leeds 15 274 270 4 16
Huddersfield 15 298 317 -19 12
Leigh 14 264 226 38 11
Castleford 15 238 429 -191 7
Hull FC 15 198 474 -276 4
LondonB 15 140 598 -458 2
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Betfred Championship 2024 ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wakefield 13 486 142 344 26
Sheffield 13 354 217 137 20
Bradford 13 341 218 123 18
Toulouse 12 332 174 158 16
Widnes 13 315 245 70 15
Featherstone 13 330 283 47 12
 
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Doncaster 13 237 325 -88 11
York 14 285 293 -8 10
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Halifax 13 270 377 -107 10
Barrow 12 203 339 -136 10
Swinton 13 260 332 -72 8
Dewsbury 14 168 419 -251 2
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