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| Quote: Sensei-Bull "No date has been set for the hearing yet you already know Salford are getting 6 points deducted?
If it is a 6 point deduction then any club can go out and spend what they like as 6 points is easily recovered when you have a team of superstars.'"
like I said, that's what I heard last night at the game. obviously that may not be correct, but I would suggest that's a reasonable amount if found guilty given past deductions
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| Quote: Gadger "like I said, that's what I heard last night at the game. obviously that may not be correct, but I would suggest that's a reasonable amount if found guilty given past deductions'"
See Nottinghamtigers post above.
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| Bradford once received a points deduction for breaking the cap. They spent between 52% to 55% of the allowed 50% cap. They pleaded guilty and didn't contest the decision. The reason they went above the cap was because Shontayne Hape picked up a season ending injury while playing for New Zealand. As I recall, the Bulls signed a replacement for Hape believing that they would receive compensation from New Zealands player insurance. This never happened and ultimately sent the Bulls above the cap. If this is deemed the same as setting up a fake company to pay players more than they stated on their salary cap allowance to deliberately deceive the RFL then I am truly at a loss.
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| Quote: Sensei-Bull "See Nottinghamtigers post above.'"
And more to the point, if I was a Salford fan I would be directing my anger at the absolute tool who has put the club in this position. His constant criticism of the RFL and his public announcement that he will break the cap will, I have no doubt, now come back to haunt him.
If this is true, not only has he been cheating the other clubs and the game as a whole, but more importantly your very own fans who pay their hard earned money to watch the team. Koukash has been willing to take all their money despite knowing that one day any achievements by the team could be as worthless as Lance Armstrong's cycling medals. He may well have rescued the club, but he has then lied and betrayed the very same supporters who hailed him as a saviour.
I feel sorry for Salford fans if this is true, I'm sure most of them want to watch a successful team but not at the expense of having any success tarnished by dishonesty and deliberate cheating.
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| Quote: DirkDiggler "Surely if a current player openly admits that he conspired to break the rules and accepted alleged extra payments through a third party company, then he would also face some sort of disciplinary from the governing body i.e Hock and Chase.'"
There is nothing in the rules to say that a 3rd party company cannot pay a player. The rules only state that the club must report all such payments as part of their salary cap submission. There are no rules related to the individual player for them to break - apart from the usual HMRC obligations.
The player would just say that he assumed the club was including the payments as part of their salary cap submission, as the club is supposed to do.
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| Think I'm more dissappointed that if we did break the salary cap, that we spent the money on that shower of $hit
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| Deduction of 2 points 4 points unfortunately if you are found to have broken the cap to my mind is relegation to the middle 8s and then a 5 point deduction going into the playoffs
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| When did they say the hearing is?
Marwan seems reasonably confident so I guess we see what unfolds.
Never boring at our club is it
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| You'd think that there are a couple of other SL teams watching this rather nervously.
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| Quote: nottinghamtiger "
In Salford's case, they seem to have created a company for the purposes of making secret payments to players intended to be hidden from the RFL and therefore circumvent the salary cap. If true, it's devious, underhand and is ultimately cheating all other clubs and the game as a whole.'"
That's some foresight from Marwan setting up a company 20 years ago so he could buy a club 16 years later so he could break the salary cap in a sport at the time he had no intrest in.
Read the tribunal it refers to euromartech I'm sure in the last four years you've done the company check.
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| Quote: bezzerscr "That's some foresight from Marwan setting up a company 20 years ago so he could buy a club 16 years later so he could break the salary cap in a sport at the time he had no intrest in.
Read the tribunal it refers to euromartech I'm sure in the last four years you've done the company check.'"
My understanding was it was dormant and reregistered? Then it's only activity seems to be to do with paying Salford players for "recruitment advice".
To be honest, regardless of the finer details the fact is it has made payments to one player in addition to his salary from the club. It may have been disclosed to the RFL, of course, and be unrelated to the accusations Salford face.
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| Check euromartech Web page you'll see as I said have been trading for over twenty years and you will see if you check out the seminars they are in the future. So not dormant in the last twenty years or now.
Not the first time you've quoted incorrect facts on here still remember the "I'm an expert you won't get a work permit" comments you made a couple of years ago
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| Don't listen to them, Salford fans. Others are just jealous of your recent success.
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| Quote: bezzerscr "Check euromartech Web page you'll see as I said have been trading for over twenty years and you will see if you check out the seminars they are in the future. So not dormant in the last twenty years or now.
Not the first time you've quoted incorrect facts on here still remember the "I'm an expert you won't get a work permit" comments you made a couple of years ago'"
Thought the company was Euromachtech, not Euromartech. Possibly my error, possibly two companies with A similar name.
However, your trying to just avoid the main principle. If the accusations are true, it's dishonest and blatant cheating and the length of time the company has been in existence is irrelevant. I wish I hadn't mentioned it, it's not the point!
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| Just pointing out that you have previous on jumping to the wrong conclusions.
It's ironic we've come from being sued by players for not paying contract money to now being accused for now paying them too much money.
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