I would agree there RJ - his future has to be where Harris put him last night as well - at Prop. Blimey dare I mention `improvement`? Cue the new #1 Noblephile Mr Talent Spotter - drum roll - entrance stage left -

Bizarrely, I have made my views known on our apparent improvement on the thread titled 'improvement.'

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He clearly has more money than sense, otherwise why pay well over the odds for a coach who has done nothing since the highly successful days at Bradford, and then get rid at the first sign of things not going to plan, and then in desperation turn to a coach who hardly set the rugby world alight at Crusaders.

Deary me. They're out in force today.

Most people at Wigan recognise that he did a good job it just needed Maguire to take us to the next level. He also got Crusaders into the playoffs, no mean feat.

It's simply not true to say he has done nothing. Brian Noble knows more about Rugby League than all of us on here put together. Let's give him due respect.

If he'd stayed you'd have got into the playoffs this season then top 4 next. MK is just a little too impatient, like many self made men. His prerogative though.

He was so good that when Lenagan went to Wigan,part way through the season from London Harlequins,one of his first decisions was NOT to grant him a further contract.
So enamoured was he,with Noble,that when [url=http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2009/jun/22/wigan-brian-noble-stephen-kearneyKearney let slip[/url Lenagan had to go all the way to Australia to find an assistant who could take the head coach role and took Maguire.

Strange,but I just cannot recall any of those rugby league experts spouting off and suggesting Lenagan should have given Noble more time.

I'm not sure what you're talking about with the majority of this post, but Harris has absolutely no pedigree or track record as a head coach. He took Crusaders from a top 8 team to bottom of the league within one year (external factors there I know but Noble had assembled the top 8 team in similar circumstances the previous year), and his time as coach of Wales ended with 3 losses from 3 at the World Cup despite the draw being clearly manipulated to give Wales the easiest possible fixtures. He's also arrogant, is known to play favorites and has poor man-management skills - while at Crusaders he actively drove players like Jamie Murphy away from the sport.

Noble was in charge of the new Salford team for a couple of months, he'd struggled with injuries and had some poor results but was in a decent enough position at that stage of the season all things considered. Since Harris has taken over, apart from a scrappy win against Bradford in the first week AFAIK the club is yet to win a game. I don't know how you can argue that the decision to sack Noble in favor of Harris was anything other than idiocy from Koukash, who up to that point had mostly done the right things.

Why this witch hunt against Harris? Shocking. He's had only a Castleford handful of games with a big injury list. Lets look again at the end of the season when he has proved one way or other what he can achieve.

As for his past - first at the Cru - Moss & Roberts were not paying the players - RL players don`t go for that one iota.

As for your comment on Nobby. Did you watch his style of RL? Dinosaur tactics. This is an Entertainment based business. MK knows that and he quickly realised the errors of his appointment. Nobby`s £1.8 mill spend of the Warchest has been appalling but now Harris has to pick up the pieces and somehow plait them into a winning side. Good luck to him.

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Quote Red-Devils-PAW="Red-Devils-PAW"He was so good that when Lenagan went to Wigan,part way through the season from London Harlequins,one of his first decisions was NOT to grant him a further contract. So enamoured was he,with Noble,that when [url=http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2009/jun/22/wigan-brian-noble-stephen-kearneyKearney let slip[/url Lenagan had to go all the way to Australia to find an assistant who could take the head coach role and took Maguire. Strange,but I just cannot recall any of those rugby league experts spouting off and suggesting Lenagan should have given Noble more time.'" Lenagan extended Noble's contract in 2008 - www.wiganwarriors.com/WContent.a ... &type=news Thankfully he saw sense the next season and didn't take up the 2010 option.

Quote Red-Devils-PAW="Red-Devils-PAW"He was so good that when Lenagan went to Wigan,part way through the season from London Harlequins,one of his first decisions was NOT to grant him a further contract. So enamoured was he,with Noble,that when [url=http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2009/jun/22/wigan-brian-noble-stephen-kearneyKearney let slip[/url Lenagan had to go all the way to Australia to find an assistant who could take the head coach role and took Maguire. Strange,but I just cannot recall any of those rugby league experts spouting off and suggesting Lenagan should have given Noble more time.'" Lenagan extended Noble's contract in 2008 - www.wiganwarriors.com/WContent.a ... &type=news Thankfully he saw sense the next season and didn't take up the 2010 option.

Quote Wigan28/Leeds18 Andy="Wigan28/Leeds18 Andy"Lenagan extended Noble's contract in 2008 - www.wiganwarriors.com/WContent.a ... &type=news Thankfully he saw sense the next season and didn't take up the 2010 option.'" Thanks for that,Andy. Seems Ian Lenagan arranged the previous October to take charge from the December and while he hed things to sort out kept Noble as head coach,as he was already in place [url=http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2007/oct/24/rugbyleague.harlequinsrlStory[/url Interestingly,having got his feet under the table he then gave it a lengthy timeframe for the club to get itself sorted out [url=http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2009/jan/15/wigan-warriors-ian-lenagan-super-league3 Years From The Year He Decided To Replace Noble[/url The assistant who he made head coach,Maguire,may have speeded up the process.

Quote Wigan28/Leeds18 Andy="Wigan28/Leeds18 Andy"Lenagan extended Noble's contract in 2008 - www.wiganwarriors.com/WContent.a ... &type=news Thankfully he saw sense the next season and didn't take up the 2010 option.'" Thanks for that,Andy. Seems Ian Lenagan arranged the previous October to take charge from the December and while he hed things to sort out kept Noble as head coach,as he was already in place [url=http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2007/oct/24/rugbyleague.harlequinsrlStory[/url Interestingly,having got his feet under the table he then gave it a lengthy timeframe for the club to get itself sorted out [url=http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2009/jan/15/wigan-warriors-ian-lenagan-super-league3 Years From The Year He Decided To Replace Noble[/url The assistant who he made head coach,Maguire,may have speeded up the process.

I'm surprised Salford went with Harris to be honest.

You'd think the Dr. would have gone for a good, proven Aussie coach rather than an unproven SL assistant.

As for Noble - awful rugby, but it gets results. It definitely has a ceiling though (knocked out early in the playoffs), unless you happen to have the Bradford team of 10 years ago.