Are u oops and yeah but wud ave thought u wud be on the giants forum

It's a SALFORD forum, we don't need your pathetic cross city bickering on here you ruin every board with it.

It's simple if its not a sunny dry day we don't have a clue? We didn't throw it outwide all match tried to play up the middle and didn't do anything as our forwards are to lightweight. Different conditions and it would of been a different result but like you say you can't go off the Ifs and buts.

I thought Hull KR were the worst team I've seen this year. Even worse than London and Widnes. And still they won. They defended reasonably well, particularly in the second half, but we made it so easy for them. Easily worst Salford performance of this season (and maybe even last!).

Despite that we still should have won. We got ahead and then in the next set, their heads went down, we were making easy yards as our forwards were suddenly fired up and then Holdsworth decided to kick on the 4th, it was a shocking kick by the second tackle they were in our half and were interested again.

Referee was appalling but we should have won comfortably despite that and we have absolutely no excuses for that performance or result. Not happy today

HKR are worst team I have seen this season yet they ran out comfortable winners with a patched up side. We were lethargic from the start, never played with any desire or conviction. This was as bad a performance as I have seen in a long time and to cap it all off a pleasant 45 minutes spent stuck in the car park after the match. Shocking attendance today as well despite the much vaunted afternoon kick off - doubtless we will blame it on the weather again not the fact we are in freefall as usual.

[iWho was today's Ref?[/i

Tim Roby, last minute replacement for Alibert.

Think people are being a bit harsh on Hull KR. They weren't great by any stretch but played the conditions much better, especially first half. Simple rugby forcing 3 or 4 goal line drop outs compared to our options of either a speculative bomb or when we did put a good kick in giving a stupid penalty away to relieve the pressure. We were pretty woeful and any time we got a chance to put some pressure on we managed to knock on or constantly take the wrong option. The lack of any sort of plan B when the Hull KR players came out of the line to close down our attacking plays was also pretty shocking.

Do you not think that the wing play is our only plan? Hudds knew to get out fast and stop us spraying the ball out wide. Wigan did and now KR. We lack pack size so teams know this is the only way we can play.

Saying that I think today we did have a plan b. And thaet was to revert back to mcrea tactics

Congrats you have been beaten by the worst team you have seen all season - bottom spot beckons!

I blame Kennedy and sale sharks

I suspect Phil Veivers may have taken your advise. Unfortunately, for him (and you) our pack grew some balls and we had a 21 year old prop scoring 2 tries in the last 10 mins. Not bad for a tired out prop.

Message to Mr Veivers - take no notice of Hull fans if you want a game plan.