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| Quote Nankivell="Nankivell"I know you shouldn't let the facts interfere with a good put down attempt, but if you check your facts, you will find that Maguire joined Wigan prior to 2010 while Lima, Hoffman and Finch didn't play for them until 2011. Nor did Hock return until 2011. In 2010, prior to all of the foregoing players, Wigan won the Challenge Cup and topped the table.
No, I'm not having a laugh, just quoting fact. Try it sometime!'"
EH ...2010..???
I know the cup is covering all of the date but honestly thats 2010 not 1910.....and thats Wires not Wigan.
you may not be having a laugh but you are wrong...
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| Quote Nankivell="Nankivell"I know you shouldn't let the facts interfere with a good put down attempt, but if you check your facts, you will find that Maguire joined Wigan prior to 2010 while Lima, Hoffman and Finch didn't play for them until 2011. Nor did Hock return until 2011. In 2010, prior to all of the foregoing players, Wigan won the Challenge Cup and topped the table.
No, I'm not having a laugh, just quoting fact. Try it sometime!'"
I never let facts get in the way of my enjoyment  And clearly you too get facts wrong  So why not now answer my question about what Maguire did differently re conditioning. what differences were there between 10 and 11? Give us some specifics.
I still think Lima, Hock, Finch, Charnley et al made a difference. More particularly the very specific defence systems and professional standards maguire introduced had a significant impact.
So some facts please on conditioning
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| Quote Cripesginger="Cripesginger"Come on its entertaining.'"
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think Dr. Quickcash should 'lay low' in regards to the press for now.
His comments have got boring now.
Good luck to Salford, it's not their fault the new owner is 'outspoken/loves the media spotlight'.
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| Quote Budgiezilla="Budgiezilla"think Dr. Quickcash should 'lay low' in regards to the press for now.
His comments have got boring now.
Good luck to Salford, it's not their fault the new owner is 'outspoken/loves the media spotlight'.'"
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| Quote the flying biscuit="the flying biscuit"
EH ...2010..???
I know the cup is covering all of the date but honestly thats 2010 not 1910.....and thats Wires not Wigan.
you may not be having a laugh but you are wrong...Quote the flying biscuit
I'm not sure what EH is, but you are absolutely right and I am mistaken. It was 2011 when they won the CC. Nevertheless, they came from 6th in 2009 to 1st in 2010.
Cripesginger: Maguire didn't do anything with conditioning, his conditioner did. And if I knew specifically what he did, I'd be doing it and earning a crust from it. The players you quoted that Maguire had brought with him, were not there in 2010. So something changed, and, in my opinion, it was the conditioning.
If you don't agree, I don't particularly give a sh?t, but what do you think gives you the right to demand information? Acquaint yourself with Google, you may find out for yourself!
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McGuire changed the system f play. 3 in the tackle with the 3rd coming in late and laying on ensuring the defensive line was set before they each got up.
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| Quote Nankivell="Nankivell"
"Cripesginger: Maguire didn't do anything with conditioning, his conditioner did. And if I knew specifically what he did, I'd be doing it and earning a crust from it. The players you quoted that Maguire had brought with him, were not there in 2010. So something changed, and, in my opinion, it was the conditioning.
If you don't agree, I don't particularly give a sh?t, but what do you think gives you the right to demand information? Acquaint yourself with Google, you may find out for yourself!"
Thanks for that. So you have zero idea about the conditioning. just your ignorant opinion.
Glad you have written so much to show me you don't give a sh?t
If you google on maguire's defensive systems etc you may learn somthing. better still stay ignorant...that way you can believe the piffle about the reds winning silverware in 2 years
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| Quote Warrington Wolf="Warrington Wolf"McGuire changed the system f play. 3 in the tackle with the 3rd coming in late and laying on ensuring the defensive line was set before they each got up.'"
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I think it would be very naive to think that McGuires impact at Wigan was not due to a multitude of changes he made.
On the subject of conditioning I don't think Salford have looked right in this area for 7 years now. It shows when we can't defend near our our line or when we defend repeat sets. Furthermore most of our forwards aren't making enough ground hitting the ball up. How many times do you see our players really struggling to get back in the defensive line after our opponents make a break? Another thing I noticed Friday was the number of times we had the ball and our players were bunched in a small area of the pitch getting their breath back.
It's both a strength and stamina issue for me.
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An uncertain pre-season put paid to any chance of having a super-fit side for the start of the season. Can't play catch-up with fitness so will have to wait until the next pre-season, with new coach, to see how this area changes.
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| Quote TheButcher="TheButcher"An uncertain pre-season put paid to any chance of having a super-fit side for the start of the season. Can't play catch-up with fitness so will have to wait until the next pre-season, with new coach, to see how this area changes.'"
It's not just this season though it's been no different for a few years now. Furthermore I don't fully accept this excuse, despite the clubs problems the players could still workout in a local gym and hit the pavements or local park. Not being funny but they would have you believe they couldn't do any training at all between November and February.
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