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For the record i've not said the club are beyond reproach, what i'm getting at is that if you (or anyone who did actually boo) think that is helping matters then your sadley mistaken.

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In the original post i wasnt in anyway suggesting that i am happy with the 'state' of the club at the minute i was pretty much slating the people that booed on friday! I would like to see salford making vast improvements on last season but if were all honest the playing squad just doesnt look capable of winning many more games than we did last year so that comment wasnt bollox at all... And just because a 'supporter' goes home and away without missing a game doesnt mean to say they are true fans the reason we are called supporters is because thats what we're supposed to do... SUPPORT! i have respect for anyone that are regulars both home and away just for the record. Yes the performance was far from acceptable but as i had said... Silence would of been far more better. So were in the crap, the fans are split massively, adam left the club months ago, without doing nothing, the franchise decisions will be round in the not too distant future and i will agree that we need a miracle.

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Quote: Michigan red "For the record i've not said the club are beyond reproach, what i'm getting at is that if you (or anyone who did actually boo) think that is helping matters then your sadley mistaken.'"



Walshovski has stated that burying your head in the sand doesn't help either! FWIW booing and chanting disgruntled comments has helped immediate matters in the past, fan power can remove a coach/manager/TV pundit from his post, Ashcroft (twice), Harvey, Gregory (ish), Jack and Harrison all got it and went. Wilko hears and feels the pain of the shed and tries his best for us. Beleive you me those boo's have not fallen on death ears. Good job some people are prepared to state the bl00dy obvious for mine.

Some people on here will be delighted with championship football forever, thats the impression I get!? Sit on your ar$es if you like!

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Quote: SteveRed "the whole Family Membership was the final straw for me (and clearly many others). The principle of being a paying member of something, with little in terms of selling points other than my own blind loyalty to a poor team, was a personal insult, after not being required to be a Family Member all my previous years.'"


I'm in the same boat as you on that one mate.

Quote: SteveRed "The writing has been on the wall for the past 2-3 years at least. The once, threatening fervour of the Shed is a broken, puzzled, desperate place where nobody quite knows what to do or what is expected. The players for so long now, don't seem to have any link with the Shed and at times don't seem interested. I don't know if that is the Management or the Coaching but I can't watch it any more - it's no longer enjoyable.'"


I 100% agree with that and that is exactly how I feel as well, couldn't have put it better.

This Friday was the first home game I've missed in lord alone knows how long and I can honestly say I didn't miss it. That alone upsets me

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Quote: The Black Cat "Walshovski has stated that burying your head in the sand doesn't help either! FWIW booing and chanting disgruntled comments has helped immediate matters in the past, fan power can remove a coach/manager/TV pundit from his post, Ashcroft (twice), Harvey, Gregory (ish), Jack and Harrison all got it and went. Wilko hears and feels the pain of the shed and tries his best for us. Beleive you me those boo's have not fallen on death ears. Good job some people are prepared to state the bl00dy obvious for mine.

Some people on here will be delighted with championship football forever, thats the impression I get!? Sit on your ar$es if you like!'"

You've named five coaches the boo-boys have got rid of.And what's been the end result? McCrae. Who you now want to get rid of.To be replaced by who? Some other mug who'll get the "treatment" a couple of years down the line.
I've said it before and I'll say it again,until we get more income into the club any coach we have will struggle to recruit decent players.
IMO the biggest disgrace on Friday was an attendance of under 3500.If we do get booted out of Super League it will be mainly due to the apathy of the Salford public over the years.

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I hate the boo ing,have NEVER AND WILL NEVER ,boo off the players and like many of you have seen some God awful performances over the years.

This year for the first time,we did not buy season tickets ,apart from my daughter we got the pay as you go .As it turns out a good idea,judging by the performance on Friday.

As has been said before we do not seem to have a plan B .the players bought in off season have experience and do not seem to play as they used to..... why is this ???

If we have a coach who cannot move the team on ,we cannot afford to sack or will not leave,do we get an assistant in and move him aside or hope for the best............................................................

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cant see why everyone is moanin

The fans lift the team or the team lift the fans, if both need lifting which is where we are then you get stuck in a spiral which without a massive change will continue.
What makes it worse with our young players this will probably hampen their growth and never probably recover.

Half time 2 points behind if the shed was even half bouncin we'd have kicked on and won it, instead they scored twice (one dodgy forward pass but we'll let that one go as well so thats......... dodgy decitions against 2 dodgy decitions for Nil in two games) and us fans just turned on each other which hurt more than the defeat itself.

Seriously considering not goin to leeds, as its my turn to drive i might go and stay in the pub cant see the point in paying to watch a game when both halfs of the whole believe already we are beaten

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Really Rob?

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Quote: nnn "Sweeping generalization.

I also deduce that "proper" supporters don't criticize the club- full stop!

You have to agree that both on and off the field this season so far has been an utter and total shambles.

It is about time things changed. 3400 for the opening game of the season is as dismal as the inept performance. Last season it was 4,026 for a game on SKY! Nice to see that promotion and membership have successfully produced an upsurge in support.

If you pay your money you are entitled to show your displeasure. Hiding heads in sand will not get us another franchise (even with the BBC close by). At least the majority of people that boo turn up regularly.

Finally, who expected Salford to be top four with the current squad/coach? I expect us to be rock bottom with fewer than three/four wins all season. The reality is Salford got thumped by Crusaders not Leeds or Saints.'"

very well put

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Probably not my final note on the subject although I hope so because I'm sick to death of it - I didn't boo at the end because I'd lost all interest, I did boo on the 3rd and 4th occassion where we were undone by the same move, that for mine was the just adding insult to injury, it should have been sorted end of!

The boo's didn't just come from 20 or so fans from the shed as people are assuming on here, my girlfriend was in front of the willows and they were booing around her and she also heard it from the main stand. So some posters on here don't boo, thats fine by me, some do, others tend to bottle up their emotions or are simply happy with their lot, thats also fine by me. One things for sure though is that it's something that wont change so no point in bleating on about it on here!

To the poster who asks which coach will be next for the boo boys? I dont know? but I'd be hoping it would be a trend we could finally break free from!

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Quote: The Black Cat "Walshovski has stated that burying your head in the sand doesn't help either! FWIW booing and chanting disgruntled comments has helped immediate matters in the past, fan power can remove a coach/manager/TV pundit from his post, Ashcroft (twice), Harvey, Gregory (ish), Jack and Harrison all got it and went. Wilko hears and feels the pain of the shed and tries his best for us. Beleive you me those boo's have not fallen on death ears. Good job some people are prepared to state the bl00dy obvious for mine.

Some people on here will be delighted with championship football forever, thats the impression I get!? Sit on your ar$es if you like!'"


As reasoned as your argument may sound, that might just about excuse the booing of McRae as he left the field.

Why then were each and every one of the player booed as they left the field, despite the fact that McRae was well out of sight by the time they left?

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I know this topic has been debated many times before, but the atmosphere has generally got a lot worse over the last few years. We've always had a decent noise coming from the shed, but it seems to have gone away. Whether its because people have been forced out due to the actions of some of the less intelligent fans we have acquired (such as once I took my mrs who was less than impressed with the racist abuse of some scrote behind me), or just personal preference the atmosphere has definitely gone.

Again I know this has been mentioned, but feel its needed now more than ever, if we can get a decent group of people together in the shed to raise a bit of noise regardless of how turd we're playing it will surely lift the rest.

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I didn't boo at the end either, what a good lad I am, I don't boo full stop, but the game from Salford was so bad I had already retired to the club with 20 mins to go to try and drown my sorrows. So club playing = me buying more beer in club, could bev a marketing ploy.
Personally i wouldn't waste a Boo on McRae, I have always said I doubted his ability and I have yet to see anything that will change that view, infact a boo is too good for him, he likes to talk, so silence is his worst enemy.

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Quote: Gadger "I know this topic has been debated many times before, but the atmosphere has generally got a lot worse over the last few years. We've always had a decent noise coming from the shed, but it seems to have gone away. Whether its because people have been forced out due to the actions of some of the less intelligent fans we have acquired (such as once I took my mrs who was less than impressed with the racist abuse of some scrote behind me), or just personal preference the atmosphere has definitely gone.

Again I know this has been mentioned, but feel its needed now more than ever, if we can get a decent group of people together in the shed to raise a bit of noise regardless of how turd we're playing it will surely lift the rest.'"


Taken from another thread.

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Aha. I knew it wasn't just me that was getting narked off. The said group, assuming you're talking about the large group of p1$$ heads stood near the front to half way up the shed, not too far from the left side of the dugout really do need to be dealt with. They really do spoil it for everybody else with their loutishness. Problem is, the players will tar us all with the same brush. A bunch of p1$$ed up morons who know s0d all about rugby league and are only there to behave like hooligans.

I genuinely believe, the better members of the shed should take action against these muppets. Now the last time I checked, mass-murder was illegal so, how about a collective shift down the shed? "The shed-reborn." It could be just like the old days. The days when there was an atmosphere. The days when we realised we were crap but still made a point of out-singing the opposition fans. The days when I used to get my mates to come down to games with me with the confidence that they would return having had a cracking night... Not been able to do that for a long while... Dunno how LukicJ has managed to stick with us.
I know considering the problems that exist at the club at the moment that such positivity may seem utterly inappropriate to many of you. But, the usual crew will continue to attend and endure games. We may as well bring some enjoyment back into it. And you never know, the players may recognise a change in atmosphere, and may even improve. We may, and I know this is a long shot at the moment, we may even win a game or two!

ARGH! I WANT TO ENJOY GOING TO SALFORD AGAIN.... ARGH....[/i

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very good post mate, at the minute i enjoy away games better because we actually do try and get behind the team, we very rarely sing at home anymore.

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