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Quote: The King Of Birchwood " Playing a lot of matches doesn't make a player great! I'm not knocking Littler here, i'm in the tiny fan-club of his, but to say he's one of the 20 greatest Salford players of all time is pretty wide of the mark!!'"


Bingo...a great servant, without a shadow of a doubt, but a great player??

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Quote: The King Of Birchwood "Playing a lot of matches doesn't make a player great! I'm not knocking Littler here, i'm in the tiny fan-club of his, but to say he's one of the 20 greatest Salford players of all time is pretty wide of the mark!!'"


I'm with you. I like Littler a lot, and always have.

He may well be one of the top 20 servants the club has had, but hopefully not in the best 20 players ever?!

Quote: The King Of Birchwood "IS STU DEFINETELY LEAVING? HEARD NOTHING FROM THE CLUB YET'"

Rumours on the Leigh board that he was lined up to sign for them next year, but then that it was all off as he has signed a new 12 month deal at The Willows.

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Quote: Hillbilly_Red "Secondly "Littler is far from a great" - check the record books. It does not matter if you or I disagree, if a history of Salford RLFC was written in the future, he would appear in the list of 20 greatest players. The stats prove this. He is a great. FULL STOP'"


Statistics could be used to prove anything. For example, a team that finishes the season with the greatest number of tackles could be said to be either a) a great defensive unit or b) so bad that they spent half of their time defending.

Statistics tell us that Ricky Ponting has scored more runs than Don Bradman. Yet even Ponting himself admits he'll never be greater than Bradman. I don't think many would argue with that, either.

Quote: Hillbilly_Red "Thirdly, we all can say we would put in the effort. If my employers gave me the stick Littler has been getting from elements on this forum, I wouldn't. I do my basic professional job and no more. Littler has never done this but puts his body on the line week after week.'"


Putting his body on the line week after week [iis[/i his job. That is what is expected of RL players at all levels across the world - you can't get by in the job by just going through the motions.

As for the stick he gets... Well, let's put it another way. If I made stupid mistakes week in, week out, didn't learn from them and stood there with a gormless look on my face not thinking I've done anything wrong when pulled up about them, I'd expect any employer to bin me pretty quickly.

Quote: Hillbilly_Red "I agree with you on this one, seems that if a player wasnt involved in a challege cup winning team or a league title win or represented their country they cant be great.'"


Once again, Bobby, you've shown a failure to grasp the basic argument being made. Since 1976 there's been players that we'll look back on as greats without them winning anything.

Quote: Hillbilly_Red "Littler scored the try which beat leigh in the grandfinal when as a club we were at a crossroads lose that game and we might be where they are today'"


And? That could've been any one of thirteen players on the pitch at the time who scored that try. Mark Robins scored the goal back in 1990 that kept Fergie in a job and catapulted United into 19 years and counting of success. Does anyone count Mark Robins as a United great? Do they balls.

As I said, Littler has been a great servant to the club. But a Salford great? Give over.

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Quote: Fatboys Limb "I'm with you. I like Littler a lot, and always have.

He may well be one of the top 20 servants the club has had, but hopefully not in the best 20 players ever?!


Rumours on the Leigh board that he was lined up to sign for them next year, but then that it was all off as he has signed a new 12 month deal at The Willows.'"


I THINK IF STU LEAVES THEN WEL BE SHORT OF OUTSIDE BACKS, BECAUSE ACCORDING TO THE ADVERTISER WILSHERE IS STALLING ON A NEW DEAL

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Quote: GT "Once again, Bobby, you've shown a failure to grasp the basic argument being made. Since 1976 there's been players that we'll look back on as greats without them winning anything.'"


Can we name one who gave his whole career to the club including two relegations, Littler would die for the shirt and that is what we ask for as fans

Quote: GT "And? That could've been any one of thirteen players on the pitch at the time who scored that try. Mark Robins scored the goal back in 1990 that kept Fergie in a job and catapulted United into 19 years and counting of success. Does anyone count Mark Robins as a United great? Do they balls..'"


Mark Robins was in the right place at the right time to score, he didnt do anything else to be warrented a great, if Utd had lost fergie would have been sacked but there still would have been a Manchester United.
We had lost against Leigh that day and im convinced we would have been where they are today, slipping into the 3rd division of Rugby league not a nice place to be.

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Quote: The optimist "Littler would die for the shirt '"


Would he f*ck.



Quote: The optimist "Mark Robins was in the right place at the right time to score, he didnt do anything else to be warrented a great, if Utd had lost fergie would have been sacked but there still would have been a Manchester United.
We had lost against Leigh that day and im convinced we would have been where they are today, slipping into the 3rd division of Rugby league not a nice place to be.'"


Littler was in the right place at the right time to score. Nothing more.

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Quote: The optimist "Stuart Littler was in the right place at the right time to score, he didnt do anything else to be warrented a great'"


Typo corrected.

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A bit of a sterile debate really - there's only one Salford player who has scored more tries from the centre position than Stuart Littler and that's David Watkins - Now he was a Salford Great, but I'd love to be second to him and I suspect so would many others!

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Quote: GT "Would he f*ck.'"


Yep i cant come back from that comment can i icon_wink.gif

stu littler is salford to the core, when we are in the trenches and we need big hearts stu littler would be one of the 1st names on the team sheet even now.

I once had a chat with littler at a FR meeting about the lack off effort at the time the team was showing, he got quite upset about it he said he'd try and win at everything he plays at because it mattered to him that much.

He is a simple soal with a heart of gold.

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Quote: The optimist "
He is simple.'"


Typo corrected icon_wink.gif icon_lol.gif

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Quote: Hillbilly_Red "Absolute twaddle, and you know it.

He holds down a place as he's good enough. His record says it all. He still shows up many Salford players with tackling, drives, metres and effort.

Our coaches do not select on sentiment - Myler, Highton etc. know this. Just because some spotty pupil, with a college computer, types garbage as his teen-idol has not been made captain does not make Littler anything but a great. I expect you to understand this.

You are entitled to your opinion but it is wrong.'"


My teen sporting idol is Mike Atherton and I think Ordsall Red's is Norman Whiteside and I'm pretty sure neither of us want them captaining Salford.

Quote: Hillbilly_Red "Actually it does not matter what I or any of us think. In my youth I remember a player I rated highly called Smethurst.
We got rid.
Leigh won trophies through him. He was an international for them. Enuf sed.'"


Who was Peter Smethurst an international for? It certainly wasn't Great Britain. And Leigh won trophies cos they had the worlds greatest scrum half coaching and playing for them, AJ Murphy. Enuf sed.

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Ee, I'm not havin' him knocked by a person who was in diapers as he finished icon_lol.gif Mind you, W, I call them nappies. icon_lol.gif

Sure he had a call-up but cannot get to me books at the mo. He was an uncompromising forward who smiled as the game got harder - he smashed many a big one onto the mud. I'm sure he sometimes moved into the centres for Leigh - could be wrong - but we could have kept him. 100% diamond. He wasn't a bad coach either .. read why he quit Oldham.

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Quote: Hillbilly_Red " Mind you, W, I call them nappies.
So do the rest of the British Isles, what is your point?

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Quote: The optimist "Yep i cant come back from that comment can i
I don't and never have questioned his effort, it is his ability that I question...

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Quote: BartonFlyer "A bit of a sterile debate really - there's only one Salford player who has scored more tries from the centre position than Stuart Littler and that's David Watkins - Now he was a Salford Great, but I'd love to be second to him and I suspect so would many others!'"


yeah but he was a great, end of.

Saying that, Littler was there when we were . He was there when we weren't so and he's there when we're again. Surely thats enough for a testimonial, right?!?

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