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I'm concerned about the sentiment that people would rather watch Salford in the Championship or League One than endure the current situation. I can’t believe anyone who endured the 2008 season could believe that, even with those cup finals. The stench of death lingers below Super League – if you’re not in there, you are nowhere.

Quote: theredshed "An owner of a club should be seen but not heard.'"


I don’t think that is a prerequisite. Brian Snape was vocal, it's just that he channeled his energies through official channels. Mind you, you didn’t have social media then!

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Your in dreamland if you think Leeds and Salford would merge that will never happen:



Quote: Chico "I don’t think that is a prerequisite. Brian Snape was vocal, it's just that he channeled his energies through official channels. Mind you, you didn’t have social media then!'"

Aye. I've said before that Koukash should stay off Twitter but, to be honest, if the players seemed happy and we were winning stuff - in other words, if the actual running of the club seemed to be sound - I'm not sure I'd give a monkeys. Balls to the rest of the "rugby league family". However, the social media outbursts just seem to be very public examples of a very odd personality.

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I think the Doc is guilty of wearing is heart on his sleeve and becoming a fan, for what he's done he is deserving of unending gratitude.

I do feel from the get go he has been incredibly ill informed by the people surrounding him, there doesn't seem at any point to have been a grand plan more grandiose ideas. We should have aimed slow sustainable progression rather than the boom or bust mentality everything seems to have been subjected to.

I am deeply concerned that there seems to be serious issues behind the scene, I hope that the arrival of Sheens heralds a new way of doing things and I hope it isn't all too late.

As for the likes of HH and Chase wanting out let them go, players will always come and go, I suspect that some of the players are on inflated wages used too tempt them all in the first place.

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Quote: Michigan red "I think the Doc is guilty of wearing is heart on his sleeve and becoming a fan, for what he's done he is deserving of unending gratitude.

I do feel from the get go he has been incredibly ill informed by the people surrounding him, there doesn't seem at any point to have been a grand plan more grandiose ideas. We should have aimed slow sustainable progression rather than the boom or bust mentality everything seems to have been subjected to.

I am deeply concerned that there seems to be serious issues behind the scene, I hope that the arrival of Sheens heralds a new way of doing things and I hope it isn't all too late.

As for the likes of HH and Chase wanting out let them go, players will always come and go, I suspect that some of the players are on inflated wages used too tempt them all in the first place.'"


Absolutely, he obviously feels a huge burden of responsibility and will share the pain and frustration of the fans. I'm sure the current situation is hurting MK more than anybody but it could be a blessing in disguise. Had we sneaked in the top 8 under Harris it could have perhaps masked deeper issues and we may have been no better off or worse off next year.

As difficult as things are right now it could be an ideal opportunity for the Doc to take a backseat approach and start afresh by allowing Sheen's to build a much stronger team for the future on more solid foundations. This newly marketed club for me lacks spirit and you have to ask why? This is one of the very first things that needs addressing urgently.

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Something that has always interested me since the Doc bought the club is the level of involvement the RFL have had.

It's well documented that Koucash knew nothing about RL before a chance meeting on a flight to Dubai and Nigel Wood badgering him to become involved in the sport.

You would have thought that when it became apparent that the Doc might buy Salford that the RFL would have stayed involved offering sound (well as sound as the RFL can provide on anything) advise on all matters RL and the running of the club.

It might be that the Doc rejected any such help or advise, I just find it odd that we seem too have a new white Knight who is getting closer and closer to the same scenario the old regime left us in.

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It's simple, Koukash needs to sit back and let Sheens run the show. All Marwan should concern himself with is making sure the players wages are paid correctly and on-time along with any other bills due. This alone would solve 90% of the troubles we're currently experiencing.

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Quote: Michigan red "It might be that the Doc rejected any such help or advise, I just find it odd that we seem too have a new white Knight who is getting closer and closer to the same scenario the old regime left us in.'"


If I was guessing from what I've seen and heard,he's a guy who won't listen.
Always knows best.
Noble and Harris are solid RL men; Sheens even more so and across 2 continents.
No, he seems to fall out with everybody.
Worse still,he's very high profile so all our problems become big news.
He's doesn't seem to learn so can't see it happening now.
Depressing.

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Quote: Michigan red "

It might be that the Doc rejected any such help or advise, I just find it odd that we seem too have a new white Knight who is getting closer and closer to the same scenario the old regime left us in.'"


You only have to do the maths. It takes deep pockets to run a club like Salford in SL at maximum cap or near to cap with our small fanbase. We were basement dwellers but financially sound for years weren't we at the Willows, when the club was only spending about 1.2 - 1.4 million against cap. Recent history shows speculate and fail with Salford unfortunately.

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Quote: John Gilbert Reds "It's simple, Koukash needs to sit back and let Sheens run the show. All Marwan should concern himself with is making sure the players wages are paid correctly and on-time along with any other bills due. This alone would solve 90% of the troubles we're currently experiencing.'"


I agree.

We need to be careful labeling another Messiah, especially one that's only here for another nine weeks.

I'm not sure what Sheens can actually do in such a short time. His ability lies in man-management, coaching, and training. Asking him to take on the role of Club 'go-to-man' for every problem area might be a step too far and asking him to work miracles in an area he will have limited experience in himself. Hopefully, he'll be getting stuck into the footy side of things.

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If Sheens makes one recruitment it must be a manager with a big pair of balls, from all accounts the Doc gets involved in the playing side of things so a no nonsense manager is needed who will basically ask to be left alone to do his job.

Someone like a Sheens himself in fact.

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Quote: John Gilbert Reds "It's simple, Koukash needs to sit back and let Sheens run the show. All Marwan should concern himself with is making sure the players wages are paid correctly and on-time along with any other bills due. This alone would solve 90% of the troubles we're currently experiencing.'"


If only it was that simple! For whatever reason there seems to be a cash-flow issue!

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Quote: Michigan red "If Sheens makes one recruitment it must be a manager with a bit set of balls, from all accounts the Doc gets involved in the playing side of things so a no nonsense manager is needed who will basically ask to be left alone to do his job.'"


A successful and experienced coach with people skills is what this clubs needs.

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22/03/2013 Get LEIGH outta wigan:



Quote: Chico "I'm concerned about the sentiment that people would rather watch Salford in the Championship or League One than endure the current situation. I can’t believe anyone who endured the 2008 season could believe that, even with those cup finals. The stench of death lingers below Super League – if you’re not in there, you are nowhere.

Not having a go mate but the stench of death that appears to surround Salford & Wakefield at the moment far out weighs that of the championship

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Salford Red Devils RLFC. [quote="Gotcha":y7izhg01]Salford won't win Super League in my lifetime. Even saying in jest they would sounds stupid.[/quote:y7izhg01]:



Quote: redgunner "If only it was that simple! For whatever reason there seems to be a cash-flow issue!'"


Weird that isn't it, particularly when you consider our owner is apparently a "multi-millionaire".

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Are people seriously saying the Doc doesn't have enough money to run the club or pay the players?

I'd be very surprise given the very succinct way the Doc said every player has been paid on time or early since he took charge.

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