Doesn't work because everyone says ‘I was there when...’.

It's not entirely true that you need to win a lot more than you lose to get improved crowds. Look at Wakefield since their change of ownership. Crowds really picked up quickly, well ahead of results improving. They created a positive vibe that people bought in to.

I hope that the crowds come back and support you,

I know that the sky's the limt with Dr Kookash and when you appoint a top coach, sign your marquee players, challenge for honours on a year by year basis, but, realistically what do you think is an acheivable average gate?

Does the City's appetite match the Doctors ambition?

There was over 10k there for the last match at the Willows, we know these were all Salford fans aswell as we were playing Catalan. So there is atleast 10,000 who have an interest of some sort. I'd be happy In 3-4 years if we're averaging 7000 a game

Iain if you can think you can get more people to part with their 20 quids by creating a positive vibe I'd be offering my services to Dr Koukash, because I'm sure he could use your help right now.

I'm not sure its true that those 10,000 were solid Salford, I spoke to a fair few fans from other clubs who had come to see the last game at The Willows.
For all the criticism it got, that ground was well liked across the RL family.
My best bet would be we'll be edging towards an 8,000 average by the end of next season - to break into the 5 figure average requires an absolutely massive change in the Friday night habits of an awful lot of people, I'm sure it can be done, but it'll take some serious marketing effort (and I'm taking it as read that we'll have a product to market).

Not quite sure where I said I can. All I said was that Wakefield succeeded in boosting crowds after a particularly grim period before the results picked up. They must have done something right. There isn't only one solution.

Appoint a well respected coach, recruit well and make sure season tickets are on sale as early as possible (ideally in July/August) and we should make up some of the ground lost this season in terms of attendances.

The daft location of the ground is something we can do little about and we have to work around it. While our crowds are dire, the earlier poster who said at least everyone is paying is right, I hope we don't panic and start giving freebies away again.

Better to increase by 500 fans a year who are all paying full price, than artificially boost the crowds temporarily by devaluing your own product.

The numbers can be misleading and certainly have been in the past,and maybe at similar clubs.
What's important is how many tickets are sold,as opposed to given away in promotions.
We need paying fans not just rentacrowd.
Many people were prepared to help with the SOS bail out. Those same people,and more,may need to support higher ticket prices,so that we avoid putting ourselves in the position of needing a bail out.

Please don't interpret my post the wrong way I wasn't trying to be smart. I just find it hard to see how a positive vibe can be grown or maintained (To lapsed and new fans) without winning more games and showing real potential to improve this year, without a few quality signings which aren't realistically possible until next year.

Perhaps Wakefield is different to our region with fewer recreational choices?

Good luck with that.

I think that this is acheivable with a competative side over a decent timescale. providing we are still pushing for honours as well last Friday's crowd should be double.

It's all speculation of course and your fans seem to be realistic, but, is the 'good' doctor willing to show some patience as your fan base rebuilds? Will crowds of say 9k against Wigan, but, 6k against London keep him interested?

Im not even a Salford fan, but I find this all very frustrating!!! I dont know exactly what Salford have tried, in the way of enticing fans to the Barton stadium, but a few ideas/thoughts I have had are as follows...I work in Urmston, and work with a lot of people from the Urmston area, who, if I wasnt there wouldnt even know Salford rugby league existed!!! Swamp this area with leaflets, postal and in the town centre, get into the schools in this area, as they are untouched by other rugby clubs...union or league, get these kids interested, and the parents will follow. The biggest lack of use is the Trafford centre, even when you were sponsored by them, you could walk around there and never know about any links with Salford Rlfc. Koukash should invest in a walkway, from the Trafford centre, directly to the stadium, this would benefit both Trafford centre and Salford, as free parking at Trafford centre, and easy get away from Salford. Wives could go shopping, men/kids to the rugby, all meet up afterwards for meal, cinema,etc. Salford match day programmes to have vouchers/money off deals for Trafford centre, and vice versa, spend £50 or more in any shop in Trafford centre and you get a ticket for Salfords next home game. Also in the event of a direct footfall link to Trafford and Barton, how about free Rugby only buses, every ten minutes from the Trafford centre?? Im sure there are many more links/ways to advertise the club and get people through the turnstile, these are just a few of the ones Ive been thinking about!!! Dr Koukash if you're reading...Good Luck!! And to all the Salford fans......keep with them, you are a sleeping giant, it will come good!!!

Matt

The club should get stuck into Trafford as a whole, particularly the dozens of schools. I'm one of an enclave of supporters from in and around Urmston. Flixton, Stretford, Urmston, Davyhulme are as close/closer to the new ground than Weaste is! But there is never any promotion in the area, and the lapsed fans just need a reason to visit - a decent team I believe will provide that. And there is more chance of them coming to the new stadium - with all it's faults - than there ever was at the Willows.

No relegation does not help. Think if the Warrington fixture was on the usual Good Friday 3pm KO we would of got around 8k.

Agree with no relegation, this has been the worst decision possible but as for 8000 turning on a good Friday you need to keep off the beetle juice.