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| I don't think anything will come of it unless you get 1000+ names as we only have 4000 paying fans on average 1 in 4 wanting change I feel will be too big to ignore.
We will see...
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| Quote: Red John "I don't know what they do. You obviously do otherwise you wouldn't spend so much time on here telling us Steve Simms is surplus to requirements, so why not tell us? For example, who negotiates contracts at those clubs? The coach? The chairman? One of the other directors?'"
Never mind what I think,what does McCormick Harrison and Parish think, Harrison was interviewed a couple of months
ago,the interviewer asked about is time at Salford,he said at the end,one person let him down.I wonder who he men,t.
I did not mention McRae,I just think he was smart enough to wait for the cheque.I know who I would sooner have at the club between Simms and Parish,I take it you would go Simms.
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| Quote: Bigpev "I might just set up a petition, what subject?
OH YES STOP PEOPLE WRITING IN CAPITALS AND NO PUNCTUATION
So you don,t agree then.
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| don't
its not hard with a keyboard.
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| Quote: lancetodd "Never mind what I think,what does McCormick Harrison and Parish think, Harrison was interviewed a couple of months
ago,the interviewer asked about is time at Salford,he said at the end,one person let him down.I wonder who he men,t.
I did not mention McRae,I just think he was smart enough to wait for the cheque.I know who I would sooner have at the club between Simms and Parish,I take it you would go Simms.'"
I don't know what McCormack, Harrison and Parrish think. Perhaps you could tell us. And it isn't a matter of what you think. It's what you know. How often do you post something that doesn't mention his name? It seems there's nothing wrong with the club that can't be solved by sacking him, so tell us what you know. What is his role? How is he performing it badly? How do other clubs deal with what he deals with? You've obviously researched it thoroughly, so tell us your findings so we can form our own opinions.
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| Quote: Hillbilly_Red "don't
its not hard with a keyboard.'"
Shouldn't that be "it's"?
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| Quote: stouffer "Shouldn't that be "it's"?'"
Touché
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| Leave a trap for the target and a &%$£ing esatz-scot springs it!
And I had such an ironic answer ready.
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| Quote: Hillbilly_Red "Leave a trap for the target and a &%$£ing esatz-scot springs it!
And I had such an ironic answer ready.
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| Ee that's only for ex-public workers
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| Quote: Red John "I don't know what McCormack, Harrison and Parrish think. Perhaps you could tell us. And it isn't a matter of what you think. It's what you know. How often do you post something that doesn't mention his name? It seems there's nothing wrong with the club that can't be solved by sacking him, so tell us what you know. What is his role? How is he performing it badly? How do other clubs deal with what he deals with? You've obviously researched it thoroughly, so tell us your findings so we can form our own opinions.'"
Players contracts, at other clubs It is done by the Chief Executive,Simms is said to act between the board and coaches.Surely the coach can speak for him self,That,s why we do not need him,I did not start this thread but just like
you we are entitle to are opinion,don,t you agree.I take it you are for him.
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| Quote: lancetodd "Players contracts, at other clubs It is done by the Chief Executive,Simms is said to act between the board and coaches.Surely the coach can speak for him self,That,s why we do not need him,I did not start this thread but just like
you we are entitle to are opinion,don,t you agree.I take it you are for him.'"
Are you sure player contracts are negotiated by the Chief Executive at other clubs or are you just guessing? Do you have proof that they are? If so, what has Paul Cullen been doing at Widnes, or Phil Lowe at Hull KR (or, I guess, Shaun McRae at Hull now)? Do ‘hands on’ chairmen like Ian Lenagan and Eamonn McManus not get involved at Wigan and Saints? I don’t know the answer, and, I suspect, you don’t either. Were contracts negotiated by Dave Tarry before Steve Simms came along? Given that Dave Tarry seems to be another name on your personal club staff vendetta list, who would you have negotiate contracts if Simms left?
And then we have people claiming to have ‘inside knowledge’ and to know what the players think of him. It’s worth noting that the people with this ‘inside knowledge’ never give any detail of what that knowledge is, and if they really did have ‘inside knowledge’, we’d have had Ian Milward coaching the likes of Kevin Sinfield, Ade Gardner, Stuart Reardon, etc. etc. etc. last season. As for the player’s opinions of him, it’s worth noting that the players are always right. Until they start criticising someone members of this board have a man crush on (like they appear to have been doing with Matt Parrish on Twitter). Then they become wrong. You hear what you want to hear.
What I have heard about Steve Simms is that he was brought in to sort out player contracts because they were, frankly, a mess. He was also brought in to do the role a ‘hands on’ chairman would do if our chairman had the time to devote to it. In that respect, do you have evidence that he’s done a bad job? We can all point to the quality of signings the club has made – focussing only on the flops, of course, never on the successes – but how much are the club constrained by the obvious lack of funds? I’m pretty sure that if we had the same amount of money to throw around as Wigan or Warrington, we’d be in a similar position to them. But we haven’t and so aren’t. I don’t see how that is Steve Simms’ fault. This is where the big question comes in: what is his role and how is he performing it badly? Until you provide a clear answer to that (with documentary evidence, not just your assumptions), I'm afraid everything you post just comes across as a tantrum.
Am I for him? I don’t know. I don’t have any evidence. My feeling is that, given the amount of money the club has, we punch well above our weight in the transfer market.
Things aren’t always so black and white, Lance.
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| RJ, have you taken your early retirement.
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| Spot on, RJ.
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| Quote: Bigpev "RJ, have you taken your early retirement.
Soon. Soon.
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