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Quote: Michigan red "www.thereddevils.net/news/rugby-news/welcome-back/

Squad announced for the game but without Rapira and Shannon Mc, would have thought that as Rapira had apparently impressed in training in SA that he would have been match fit. Just hope between them they don't spend most of the season on the treatment table.'"

picking a squad of 23 of our 28, someones going to miss out , and we've only got two pre season games.
Agreed the two players in our squad most at home on the treatment table .. hope it's just tactical - or precuation.

S'au is back in Aus , Hock & Hansen . keeping the powder dry

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Why is S'au back home?

When you look at things the lack of depth to the squad isn't as apt as some from outside the club suggest, nice luxury to have the likes of the Walnes, Ashurst and Dixon looked upon as not automatic starting 17 types.

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Quote: Michigan red "Why is S'au back home?

When you look at things the lack of depth to the squad isn't as apt as some from outside the club suggest, nice luxury to have the likes of the Walnes, Ashurst and Dixon looked upon as not automatic starting 17 types.'"


Sau is in Aus because his missus is about to give birth.

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Is it 7.30 or 8 kick off?

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Quote: middleman "picking a squad of 23 of our 28, someones going to miss out , and we've only got two pre season games.
Agreed the two players in our squad most at home on the treatment table .. hope it's just tactical - or precuation.

S'au is back in Aus , Hock & Hansen . keeping the powder dry'"


Hanson has only just started full training, he's still not 100% and obvioulsy not worth the risk. He'll hopefully get a run out at Warrington.

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Quote: redballoon99 "Is it 7.30 or 8 kick off?'"


7:30

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Quote: Ave It! "Hanson has only just started full training, he's still not 100% and obvioulsy not worth the risk. He'll hopefully get a run out at Warrington.'"


True , He was ruled out of the RLWC for Samoa with a knee injury. Hock ?

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Is it hell, compared to Chau's (10 minute walk from the ground) next to 'The Centurion Pub' Green Lane Chippy, may have won an award (for it's fish ???) but Chau's is so much better !

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Quote: middleman "True , He was ruled out of the RLWC for Samoa with a knee injury. Hock ?'"


Hock is out on compassionate grounds tonight as it's his best mates funeral today his head wouldn't be on the game even if he did play.

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Quote: Budgiezilla "Is it hell, compared to Chau's (10 minute walk from the ground) next to 'The Centurion Pub' Green Lane Chippy, may have won an award (for it's fish ???) but Chau's is so much better !'"

Budge , believe me the Green Lane Chippy is by far THE BEST IN LEIGH , no doubt,awards 2 years on the trot , its own restaurant , always plenty in , as for Chaus?Ive Never seen a queue in there yet ,as with everything customers vote with their feet .Charlie knows . icon_wink.gif .

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We really don't help ourselves, just been to the ticket office at the stadium to get a ticket for tonight only to be told that they have sent them back, brilliant way to make it easier for fans.

Now won't have time to get a ticket before the game and get in without it all being too much of a rush and ball ache before the game.

Just so close but still not quite getting it right.

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Why would you go to our stadium ticket office to pick up tickets less than 7 hours before an away game? I would have thought it was common sense that Thursday would be the last day we would sell tickets.

Just ring Leigh ticket office up and order one that way and pick up from reception later this evening.

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I wasn't 100% sure I could go until this morning and stupidly I thought you'd be able to buy tickets from a ticket office! I go to the gym on site so popped in when I'd finished earlier.

As I say I will be on the very last minute and phaffing picking up a ticket or paying on a turnstile tonight will eat into the game.

Just do find it very odd that you can't buy a ticket, surely there will be many occasions when people decide on the last minute to grab a ticket from them and my understanding is that normally Salford get a percentage of tickets they sell at their own ticket office?

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I was told they were going to keep them on sale to dinner time today obviously somthing changed ?

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Quote: The optimist "I was told they were going to keep them on sale to dinner time today obviously something changed ?'"


100% they said they sent them back, can't see any logic unless they are expecting LSV being a sell out? sell none nothing lost sell some it's more money for Leigh.

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