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I wonder if the loan deal for Murphy included some kind of guarantee of 1'st team football?

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Quote: BartonFlyer "I wonder if the loan deal for Murphy included some kind f guarantee of 1'st team football?'"


They said it was a one month loan which surely has elapsed? Not being disrespectful to him (or any of the loanees) but he just doesn't look good enough and a decent championship team would know before the game to bombard him with high balls and he'll more than fluff his lines.

Can anyone honestly say that Evalds wouldn't be just as good defensively at full back and would offer a great deal more offensively.

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Quote: BartonFlyer "I wonder if the loan deal for Murphy included some kind of guarantee of 1'st team football?'"

I asked the same question to Ed Farish , says there is definately no guarantee of selection involved in any of our loan deals . It's Purely Veivers picking him

Rhys Williams , was hoping to have him back some time in the future
Niall Evalds , said that Niall would get some ' significant ' game time this season

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Quote: middleman "I asked the same question to Ed Farish , says there is definately no guarantee of selection involved in any of our loan deals . It's Purely Veivers picking him

Rhys Williams , was hoping to have him back some time in the future
Niall Evalds , said that Niall would get some ' significant ' game time this season'"


mmm - makes you wonder then if there is some less formal "gentleman's agreement", otherwise what's the incentive for a club to send a player out on loan if they're not going to get game time?

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Presumably Gibson and Gledhill miss out?

Murphy
Broughton
McGoldrick
Gleeson
D Williams
Sneyd
Foran
Griffin
Godwin
McPherson
Ashurst
Dixon
Wild

Howarth
Boyle
James
Mauro

Shame for Gibson - he took his tries well and made a couple of vital tackles in the second half against KR but don't think his defence is strong enough for centre and Broughton and Williams are better wingers, good man to have in the squad though

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Quote: RedUnderTheBed "Presumably Gibson and Gledhill miss out?

Murphy
Broughton
McGoldrick
Gleeson
D Williams
Sneyd
Foran
Griffin
Godwin
McPherson
Ashurst
Dixon
Wild

Howarth
Boyle
James
Mauro

Shame for Gibson - he took his tries well and made a couple of vital tackles in the second half against KR but don't think his defence is strong enough for centre and Broughton and Williams are better wingers, good man to have in the squad though'"


Which 2 players are likely to miss out then??

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@bruceywillis91:



gibson will play i think if mauro and foran are ready to play i think gledhill and boyle will miss out with mcgoldrick going to 13

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It will be McGoldrick and Foran at half back. Gibson will play in the centre, with Sneyd and Gledhill or James missing out. Shame for Sneyd, but I just don't think PV will play him, he has a habbit of dropping youngsters who have performed.

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I'd play McGoldrick at FB with Gibbo in the centres. Thought Boyle went well and think he'll keep his place. Mauro could replace Jewitt? We'll see but I'd expect us to beat London whichever combination we use. I have to admit being slightly worried playing Foran straight away. SH is the key position and he'll probably have a bit of jet lag still and have had 1 maybe 2 training sessions before the game to work on combinations. Only a slight concern but as I say I expect us to win whichever combination we use.

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I hope Sneyd doesnt miss out!! Also how would Gibbo go at full back??

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Quote: Michigan red "Sorry but really not happy that Murphy is still getting a shot'"

Quote: Michigan red " PV has a habbit of dropping youngsters who have performed.'"


Youngsters to have to be nurtured very carefully because they do 'burn out' or rllose their ziprl

Playing Murphy against Wigan was wise as he had been on their warm weather training trip to Florida rlLINKrland would,presumably,know more about them than anyone else.It wasn't the best debut he could possibly have but it did leave PV in a quandary.With his own position under the microscope he chose,as a former full back and father of a son of similar age and playing experience to Murphy,to continue playing him not only away against Cats and Leeds but at home in front of a crowd which fortunately on Sunday night was out of this world in its continual vocal encouragement.
I think it demonstrates the measure of the man with regard to Phil Veivers and also that Jack Murphy can recover from probably the worst debut it was possible to have to slowly rebuild his confidence to be part of a winning side against a team featuring the 'next' 'English' Billy Slater or however Nathan Brown described Greg Eden.
There is no one going to steal a ball from Jack Murphy.Even the best make mistakes.
We need to win this game as it appears Wakefield are inury depleted rllinkrlbefore they play the French

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Quote: SCR-SeaDiver "Youngsters to have to be nurtured very carefully because they do 'burn out' or rllose their ziprl'"



I agree to extent, but if a youngster is performing (like Evalds) why drop him? Surely that sends the wrong message out to them? The message PV is giving out at the moment seems to me, to say - "If you've come through Salfords ranks you’re obviously not good enough so I’ll pick someone who has come through a better academy system even though they’ve not been performing!!”

And as for Sneyd he’s 22 now so I think he’s past the nurturing stage surely? (Not old I know, but as a pro sports person 22 is the age when players need to start making a name for themselves otherwise they never will or should I say players rarely do as there are exceptions )He played well last week so IMO should keep his place this week, I just don’t think he will. Hope Phil proves me wrong!!!

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McGoldrick for fullback ?

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mcgoldricks too slow for fullback murphy will play otherwise you wouldn't put him in the 19 dont think he will drop sneyd it just depends how mauro and foran are feeling today they only have todays training session

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