I think that's the point, if PV or Longy came out and said [i"we're giving a couple of our U-20's a run out in he first team this week so please give them all your support and if they make mistakes please remember that they're just making their way in the game so stick with them"[/i I think the educated ones on the terraces (getting fewer and fewer I know) would understand and give them credit for what they do do instead of what they can't. Sadly with experienced players that can't be allowed.

We wouldn't need PV and Longy to tell us in the first place.

I don't think the youngsters would be subject to such criticism. In fact I think everyone will appreciate they're young and give them a chance. I honestly think they need to be given a chance, look at the Hull KR game last season when Marroitt and Davidson came in they played well and we've never seen them again, why? Sneyd also played and scored in that match.

The problem with our pack is most of them just aren't good enough. They're plodders, so I agree it's not worth getting on their backs during the game because it's not their fault they're being picked. James must honestly be one of the worst defenders in the league for the size of him. How he continues to get a shirt week in week out is beyond belief.

Quite, but you get my point.

Looking forward to it.. apparently we've sold out of allocated tickets, so we should have a good following.

Think it will be a good game.

I sure do mate.

Well it appears that although both teams couldn't keep hold of the ball one side had a little help, this from the BBC website

Burgess' controversial try nine minutes from time looked like a telling score, as Shaun Ainscough looked yards offside when he collected Jeffries' kick to put Burgess over and Gale converted to make it 20-16.

Referee Richard Silverwood allowed the try to stand, to Salford's fury, but Broughton struck back after Oliver Elima was sin-binned.

POST-MATCH REACTION
Salford coach Phil Veivers said is the biggest understatement of the year. The players say the touch judge called offside and the ref didn't give it, which makes one wonder. I thought we were playing Aussie rules at one spell.

I get a little worried when our coach starts blaming the ref everytime we don`t win.Maybe he needs to look a bit closer to home.

Bit childish commenting on the ref. Must be hard to spot everything in horrible conditions and there were a few dodgy calls both ways.

Tbh I thought you were the better side through 80 mins, but still felt unlucky to get a point as I thought we'd had it after Burgess's 'try'

there was a lot of poor calls tonight.. was just one of them games.. Great atmosphere in the away stand though, love your new stadium

Yes some will say I'm too negative blah blah blah, but the real fans will understand. Today was a joke, Ryan Boyle should hang his head in shame, disgraceful. Another winnable game thrown out the window, Red army

I thought Sidlow had a good game, but the rest of the forwards had no impact at all on the big Bulls pack .We found it very hard to bring the ball away from our own line time after time. There were 3 times in the second half, when we had a scrum on our own 10 metre line,the wind behind us, and their fullback up in the line. WHY oh WHY dont we kick down field on the FIRST tackle. What is there to lose???At worst, the fullback has to turn round and chase 50 metres back and maybe get the ball on their 20 metres ,meaning we have cleared our lines, but at best, Broughton or Williams outpaces them and scores !!

Kept commenting at the game why we didn't kick earlier in the count as the Bulls fullback was very high, we seem to like finding pacey backs and then not utilising them at all.

Thought the oddest decision was to not start with Owen on the park, thought Sidlow had a very enthusiastic first spell and just shows his capabilities when he applies himself, Feka just seems to be going backwards and surely must be on his last season as frankly he offers nothing of note either in defence or attack.

I know others keep saying the same thing but with the progress in the youth set up there must be a one or two of the young forwards who can come into the side, it's looking less and less likely we will make the 8 so it is a perfect time to blood the odd one and see if they are going to make the grade.

Boyle was terrible,Owen is far better than Howarth,Feka did have an impact when he came on but Sidlow surprised me.
He was up for it from the start and looked good.
Thought we looked ok second half.
Penalty count was very high until,half way in second half, ref started giving scrums for lost balls rather than penalties. Reckon someone had a word with him?