That's for you to decide Baldfella isn't it, but when did we last play that style of rugby under McCrae. His game plans involve 5 dumb-ass forward drives and a kick down field usually straight down the throat of the full back who returns the ball with interest and we end up defending our own line again within 2 tackles.

We even played that way in some games in NL1 last year when we should have been running the opposition all over the park and tiring them out rather than making it easier for them by 1 man s**te up the middle.

Coaches talk about game plans like there's no opposition!!! Kenny Gill never played to a game plan... he just played.... and we won the league twice in 2 years with him at 6.

Here's my game plan for the Cas match on friday. Let Stefan Ratchford boss the show like he did against Saints and lock McCrae and Father Ted in the Willows where they can't do any harm!!!!!

well that could be a interesting thing, Noble comes in, succesful at Bradford, ok at wigan will command repect, Mcrae moves upstairs into a Director of rugby role, he is a big name, has coached at the top level for years will entice bigger players with him and Noble at the club didnt he have a simuar role in oz before he came here.

Would leave Mr Simms in a dodgy position tho but at least we would have a comparison to compair with then.

As for having favourites Mcrae has his and plays his too so i dont think that would change too much

Good players should not need coaching,they should be allowed to get out there and play their game.
If I was told the plan yet again was to do five drives through the middle run into the markers get nowhere and then kick I would say fook that, lets pass the bloody thing and play the game as it should be.
Noble has the same game plan as McRae.They are dinosaurs in the modern game who should be shunted off to some remote island never to be seen again.

Kenny Gill may have not played to a game plan but I think you'll find he played alongside slightly better players than we have at the moment.
You talk about 5 drives and a kick,exactly the tactics that beat Saints,its our inconsistency thats our downfall.If we have a good kick/chase (as against Saints),dont give away penalties,and don't knock on,then we are competitive. In too many games this season we've made too many basic errors and struggled because of this.
As for McCrae,any coach that can get wins at Hull.Leeds,Huddersfield and at home to Saints must be doing something right.

i think that is the problem in a nut shell, the players turn over too much ball and get punished against other teams, personally i feel if the players were able to remain as switched on as they were against saints (because they were making a point against one of the bigger sides in the comp) against everyone else i think we would be feared.

Unfortunatley its take a lot phycially and mentally to perform at that level week in week out, that is why we came crashing back down to earth at celtic.
I hope after a weeks rest (that what we'll call celtic mentally) i think the players should be able to produce a simular performance which beat saints

the slug should go , after saturdays call ,putting steff in the centres he does deserve the bullet ,and bring in hunte and leo murphy ,the dream team , at least youth would be given a chance , and they both care about the club , more than the slug and father ted whos only concern is going on his two weeek trip to oz to bring over tyoverated crap ,stop this now3 mr wilky they both are havin a laff at our expense ,,get rid of these two losers

But Stef is not a centre,Winger or whichever position McRae decides to put him into next.
You do not see him shifting Smith around do you ?
Stef is a stand off and should be kept there.

Having read your post Smithy68, I am not sure what you are saying.

McCrae not playing young players? Steff as prop (sorry -age showing: front-row) would be better? Insulting people makes your case stronger?

Err, no.

Has made more yards and offloads than any other salford player this season which is what you want in your front row, true he hasnt skittled a defence but with our round the ruck play and support play sometimes so pedestrian i cant reaily see see the point in sending in a Kamakazi runner just to get swallowed up by the defence and waist a tackle.

Korki was a perfect example of this, when other teams figured out he was our go to man to get big yards they buit a wall of big forwards infrount of him and he just kept running into it, without a bit of cunning or guile around the ruck it becomes worthless, put cashmere and korki in the same team with better service around the ruck then we'd be in business imo.

id rather get more 2nd phase ball from an offload to give the likes of smith and henry a broken defence to cause chaos in .

In the off season i hope we bring in another fairy like cashmere replacing stapo or big phil or both, id like a forward who could skittle a defence to come of the bench who is young and willing to progress here at the willows as well would certainly give other teams more to think about when defending against us.