Utter rubbish I'm affraid, I defy anyone to justify Tim Smith's place in the team based on anything other than his reputation, don't care if it's Theo or not but we need a scrum halves who shows a little guile and passion for the jersey.

To me it was telling that when the protracted break for injury Huddersfield sent on a trainer to issue instructions and do some drills we in the main just stood in a line playing statues until Chase got hold of a couple of people and started barking a few orders.

We need desperately someone to shadow Hock around the pitch as yesterday every time he hit the defensive line he was stood looking to off load with often not a Salford player within reach, the worrying thing is more than once he just blindly off loaded.

I honestly thought when Mullaney took the first bomb aimed his way at full speed on the dive that it was going to be our day but we just looked like a team of absolute strangers. Huddersfield to their credit took us apart in a very professional fashion, I just hope that when Harris gets his chance to make a mark that is the type of performance we will be producing, my worry is how long Harris will be given to get it right.

Harris is no better than noble,this give him time wnt change,I'm afraid koucash and his bold statements are beginning to look very silly,we will be no where near top 6 as far to inconsistent.the crowds continue to drop as well only 5 there yesterday,the widnes game is massive now!

Talent Stalker is back.

Listen very carefully - I will say zis only wance. I criticised Nobles appointment with regard to his age (53) - his boring style of 5 drives and an Up & Under and to that you could add his portfolio of players he has acquired using the Chairmans money. 6 wins in 12 months (including 2 x London & 1 x Wakey) is just not good enough though strangely I would support his move 'upstairs' to which he would be better suited - unless it affected the work of Alan Hunte.

Many are on Harris's back already citing his Welsh performance (he used Wales based Amateurs and not Australians whose Great Grandad may have been incarcerated in Cardiff Prison before being transported to the Colonies). When at Crusaders he had to contend with a players revolt after non payment of their wage packets and you all realise that when a Rugby Mercenary hasnt been paid then performance wilts. So Iestyn goes to Wigan and learns from the Pie power house and hopefully we will reap the benefit over the next 18 months.

As for his coaching ideas and skills - just ask a random number of players what they think of him after just 10 days. The fans on his back are well wide of the mark.

Just remembered something from yesterday, couple of times in the second half before the game was obviously lost there was to be a scrum and we just ambled around and lost a good 30 seconds on each occasion, I know it's not much but the players should have been gusting a gut too get there and form the scrum!

Harris will be fine.
I'm not too fed up after last night.
We lost,deal with it.
The criticism that the players don't have their heart in it,is daft.
Bring in the kids,daft.
Huddersfield had a few breaks early on and created momentum.
As Harris said,when you're 18 points down after quarter of an hour it's uphill.
This team,indeed the whole project,is a work in progress.
There'll continue to be changes during the season,and at the end of it, but to hammer the players is bonkers.
Some will come through it,some will be cast aside, but let's look on the bright side .

That absolute shambles of a 5 minute period where we conceded back to back to back was the killer. We put points on the board but just couldn't get close thanks to Mullaney's pretty awful goalkicking. Add in the fact that we played almost half the game with only two interchanges and a player carrying a knock and it was never going to be our day. Huddersfield are for all intents and purposes a better team than us, despite their poor start to the year. Disappointing performance overall though.

It's not blind faith. I just have a grip on reality.

Nobody likes to see their team under perform and ours certainly is. We have not had a complete game this season yet. We're a quarter through the season with a brand new Club from top to bottom. Changes of personnel left right and centre. I know some people fell for the Dr's brand push pre-season, but to expect the bottom Club from last year turn into world beaters in nine games seems a little optimistic. With the exception of Widnes, we've beaten the teams around us from last season. Did anyone realistically think we were going to beat Wire, Saints, Hudds, and Hull before the season started? They would have been a bonus. So we're about on track really, even though we've played pretty rough throughout so far.

That's sport. It has ups and downs.

I just choose not to get my knicker's in a twist every time we lose.

Better than no team at all though eh?

Why is it a cop out? A cop out from what?

That's my view. Are you saying I'm in denial from my own thoughts?

Just read the title of the thread "Harris Out." After 2 games it says it all, pathetic, not worthy of a serious reply.

The time to get a better opinion would be the last 8 games of the season. No excuses for not gelling then.
Would also be interesting, to see who is retained and what/or if better quality players are signed. We have quite a few players past their best

Having had a couple of days to now digest the game, I feel like I can comment accordingly.

The 3 minute spell where Huddersfield scored 3 tries won them the game, you can't give anyone an 18-0 start in this league and expect to come back unless you're St Helens and unfortunately we aren't. The comedy of errors in that short spell was like something out of a Benny Hill sketch with the Mullaney/Johnson clash summing it up.

We obviously got ourselves back into it at half time, but with the injuries and re shuffle following Johnson's departure and then McPhersons you felt it was only going to go one way.

A few issues are concerning me though;

Jake Mullaney - his goal kicking is the most unpredictable I have ever seen. How he can go from kicking them off the touch line at Hull to missing them (barring Mozza's under the sticks) against Huddersfield is beyond me. It's a major issue.

Tim Smith - the bloke needs dropping, simply. He has had an awful start to his Salford career and it's getting worse. I accept he was a big money signing, but that doesn't mean he's untouchable. Give him a week or two off in the sun, give Theo a run and then start again. I haven't given up on him at all, but it can't carry on as it is.

Martin Gleeson - surely his last season. Slow and poor in both attack and defence, should have put Greg Johnson away in the corner early on in the game but kept hold. Various other offensive and defensive mistakes to.

Agree in the main JGR but I just think he might be useful at right centre as he has pace and his no look passes could put his winger in regularly.

Massive overreaction on here as usual but not a surprise listening to some of the South Stand numpties on Friday night! .

This year was always going to have ups and downs and so it's proven. We played badly and got what we deserved, end of. We also had a rough deal with the bounce of the ball & injuries but the better team won and that can't be disputed. It's dissappointing but we have to look at the bigger picture and realise that it's going to be a couple of years before we seriously challenge the top 4 and this is just a stepping stone to that. Hopefully the Doc will show some patience and get the right structures in place to let this happen. I hate using the "C" word but look how long it has taken City to pick up one league title & an FA cup despite their spending.

I'm not burying my head in the sand here I'm just looking at things rationally. I can see (well I'm not that blind ) the defensive failings, Tim Smith's poor form, our lack of pace in the backs. These cab be addressed we just need to have faith that Harris will address them. I'd certainly take Smith out of the firing line for a short while, his confidence looks shot & we've seen that Theo has the maturity to step up for a short while. He'll come back stronger & will be an asset no doubt. Mullaney's kicking is also a big concern, I believe he was pretty good in Aus so not sure why he's been so poor here. But what other options do we have?

I fear for us at Leeds, they're a class outfit whatever 17 they put out I just hope we stand up and be counted. Widnes (x2), Catalanand HKR are then huge games and are likely to define our season. Win 3 or 4 and we can kick on, lose them and the top 8 may be out of our reach.

Tim Smith,according to Wakefield fans,was poor defensively.

Against Huddersfield the stats show him making 31 tackles - just behind HH and Gleeson.Far too many for a half back - but will almost certainly be needed at Headingley.

Chase made far fewer - as,of course,did Danny Brough.

Smith hasn't been at his best but please don't scapegoat him just because Stu Howarth has gone on loan to Barrow.

Huddersfield absolutley hammered our right side defence. Hansen, Smith and Gleeson were targetted all the way through the game. Ashurst, Chase, Hock, and Meli on the other side of the pitch however made the lowest number tackles with 10, 9, 3 and 1 respectively. Even Greg Johnson made 9 tackles in the short 15-20 minutes he was on the pitch. Hence the reason Murphy scored a hat-trick.