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| Quote: Iain "Do you not think that it says something about the club that someone (anyone) was so keen to get out so quickly? And I'm not a "Parish lover" - just a concerned fan.'"
Iain,in an interview on the radio after he had resigned, Matt said that he was gutted in having left one of only about 30 senior coaching positions in Rugby League giving the impression also that he had been badly done to, this was the impression that I and three other people were left with after listening to the interview together.
To have flew home to Australia,applied for/been approached for the Manly job and then been appointed in less than a week points to Matt having something to answer as well as or instead of the club.
Personally I hope that he does well in the NRL and has learned valuable lessons on his man management and media skills.
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| Quote: redmatt77 "I’m sure he hasn’t managed to get a job in a week.
Was he under contract, do we get any compensation, how does it all work?'"
No he was not. He haden't put pen to paper on anything official as McRae was still being paid off at the time. When the time did come for him to sign he left.
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| So Parish goes back to Aus and gets a job big surprise!
Why are the anti Parish league using this as a stick to beat the guy?
He saw the conditions and interference he had to work with, so is it no surprise if (and it is an if) he saw what opportunities where available whilst he was at home. Surely its better to play second fiddle in the NRL than second fiddle to Steve Simms the world's greatest coaching guru?
As to Manly so you lot suggest it was all a big conspiracy, that Parish new Des Hassler was going to get sacked weeks ago and had it all tied up, before he came bag to the Salford Circus??
Can all these anti Parish people hand on heart say that they have never looked for a job whilst being employed?
It just shows all the prats last week saying he wouldn't get a job are well .... prats. Cream rises to the top as they say, I bet Simms doesn't walk into a job in the NRL if he's ever sacked from Salford, even with his ten years of success at our coaching helm!! I would love to know what they guy has on Wilky to still be in a job.
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| Quote: Gruffy "So Parish goes back to Aus and gets a job big surprise!
Why are the anti Parish league using this as a stick to beat the guy? '"
Some folk suggested his behaviour was that of someone using the club as a stop-gap. This development gives credence to that.
Being uncompromising sounds like a wonderful trait in a coach, in theory. In paractice it appears to isolate and divide the systems that need to 'pull together in the right direction'.
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| Quote: EX.SALF.UNI "Some folk suggested his behaviour was that of someone using the club as a stop-gap. This development gives credence to that.
Being uncompromising sounds like a wonderful trait in a coach, in theory. In paractice it appears to isolate and divide the systems that need to 'pull together in the right direction'.'"
You make the assumption that those "systems" are of any use whatsoever.
All this waffle just takes attention from the real problems. Whether it's Parish, Veivers or Jack ing Gibson coaching the team, the Club is rotten to the core. I don't care who the Coach is, I care that things get fixed and all those of you who are engaging in this cock waving competition about Parish are failing in your duty as fans of Salford RLFC.
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| Quote: DogPie "I'm still not understanding how you guys aren't getting it. People bang on about those who defend Parish, yet constantly defend those who are rightly to blame or all this. Firstly, Parish always said he wanted to go back to the NRL. That he has done. Now, the recruitment effort by the club was appauling. Parish was only on the list because the club messed up recruiting the people they actually wanted in the first place. They also wanted a quick appointment to get somebody in before the end of the season which have whoever would take the job very little time to look into the club fully. So he had to trust what he was told. This being that he would be given full charge to build a team. He was also told about our 'amazing' youth set up. So Parish comes over and hits a brick wall with everything he tries to do. Each time he makes a request he's knocked back. Not for financial reasons, but because they want to control everything. If they never intended to allow him this freedom, they should never have told him he could. He was hugely frustrated and each time he protested he got the cold shoulder treatment. That is impossible to work with. The youth setup was also nothing like he was lead to believe. So, let's just say he has the opportunity to go and work in a professional organisation in the NRL rather than the amateur set up at Salford, then who can blame him. The amateurism of the club didn't even tie him down to a contract which says everything about how they do things. I'm no big lover of Parish, but I just wish people would open their eyes and see things for real. Take the blinkers off.'"
I'm glad MP has gone, IMO (IN MY OPINION!) the guy was a loud mouth who (I Know) wasnt respected by the players.
That aside I cant help disagree with your post. You are conveying your "opinion's" as fact's.
These are not fact's, (Unless you are a close friend of SS's or MP's, which I guess your not) These are well thought out opinion's of what you think went wrong.
Matt Parish was chosen becuase the club messed up recruiting a coach? - did SS tell you that himself ?
Matt didnt have enough time to then research the club which is the club's fault? - Matt is a big boy, if he felt he was pressured into the job and didnt have enough time to make his mind up why did he take the job?
They didnt give him freedom ? - What freedom are you on about? signing player's? I would imagine if the club had the funds they would let him sign a worth while player.
He was given the cold shoulder ? - HOW DO YOU KNOW THIS !!!! It was reported MP locked the door after winning his first game.
At the end of the day there's 2 sides to every story, and I think Matt and the board didnt see eye to eye (which Matt may have had good reason for) which didnt help circumstances.
I'm not defending the club here as I gather there are problem's but to attack the club and make your opinion's seem fact is wrong.
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| Quote: Diavolo Rosso "You make the assumption that those "systems" are of any use whatsoever.'"
Oh, did I? Thanks.
Am I hungry? What do I fancy for lunch?
Quote: Diavolo Rosso "All this waffle just takes attention from the real problems. Whether it's Parish, Veivers or Jack loving Gibson coaching the team, the Club is rotten to the core.'"
No assumptions there then...
Quote: Diavolo Rosso "I don't care who the Coach is, I care that things get fixed and all those of you who are engaging in this cock waving competition about Parish are failing in your duty as fans of Salford RLFC.'"
The duty of us fans is to fix things. I like this. Perhaps we can discuss solutions to the percieved shortcomings? Maybe we can attempt to identify why things are done the way they are before screaming about how "rotten" everthing/everyone is? Could we lend some time to assist with lotteries, mail-drops, raising funding for the youth and poster campaigns? Could we cojole firends into getting their ar$es to matches?
Or is fulfilling our duty just sitting here bitching?
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| *I do none of the above, btw. I'm Sweden, all neautral like.
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| Quote: Gruffy "
Why are the anti Parish league using this as a stick to beat the guy?
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I don’t think some people’s reaction is anything personal against him. I interpret it as an ironic, retaliatory, response to those that continually knock the club and are perceived as members of the Matt Parish B*m Licking Society.
Isn't it ironic how those that continually criticise others for defending the club are quick to defend their beliefs when some sh*t is flying in a different direction?
Good luck to him I wish him well.
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| Quote: Gruffy "... I bet Simms doesn't walk into a job in the NRL if he's ever sacked from Salford, even with his ten years of success at our coaching helm!! I would love to know what they guy has on Wilky to still be in a job.'"
How can someone hold a position like Simms does without being given the sack after 10 years of mis-management and constant failings on the field? If we do indeed need to keep his role within the club why has no-one else being appointed to take his job or do the club think our recruitment/contract dealings etc have been excellently done over the time he has been in the club (Phil Bailey saga being still fresh in the memory to name but one instance of Simms gold)? What is Simms actually measured on when he is appraised within his job? Parishgate is irrelevant when questioning Simms role at the club in general though I am guessing he had a say in the appointment so maybe it is relevant
For what its worth I thought Parish was a poor appointment when I personally thought a tried and tested SL coach would have been the way forward (a Kear or a Morgan - Noble apparently didn't want it but he would have been my No.1 choice - not great names but we aren't a great club currently)
The club had the chance to have a clearout and begin life in the new ground with a clean slate and fresh ambition - that time has passed and we as a club are in a mess and it really shouldn't be like this - we should be looking forward immensely to the new ground and the future but alot of people judging by this forum and other Reds I've spoke to do not feel that way at all
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| Quote: EX.SALF.UNI "Oh, did I? Thanks.'"
Well yes, because you said that the most desirable outcome is for those "systems" to pull together. This is only the most desirable when we have the best "systems" (within our constraints) available to us, which currently we don't.
Quote: EX.SALF.UNI "No assumptions there then...'"
There is endless evidence of the failings of the way we are currently run both on and off the field. If you can't see that then you are a simpleton, if you can stop see it then stop being an awkward er.
Quote: EX.SALF.UNI "The duty of us fans is to fix things. I like this. Perhaps we can discuss solutions to the percieved shortcomings? Maybe we can attempt to identify why things are done the way they are before screaming about how "rotten" everthing/everyone is? Could we lend some time to assist with lotteries, mail-drops, raising funding for the youth and poster campaigns? Could we cojole firends into getting their ar$es to matches?
Or is fulfilling our duty just sitting here bitching?'"
No, the duty of fans is to do the best they can to ensure that whatever club they support is run as well as it can be in an effort to ensure success where possible, but most importantly the continued existence of the club for future generations. By not challenging the current situation you're failing in your duty.
I agree we all need to do more to support the Club, but the most effective thing we could do right now is to force a change in CEO and DoF as both the current incumbents are failing spectacularly in their roles.
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| Quote: Gruffy "So Parish goes back to Aus and gets a job big surprise!
Why are the anti Parish league using this as a stick to beat the guy?
He saw the conditions and interference he had to work with, so is it no surprise if (and it is an if) he saw what opportunities where available whilst he was at home. Surely its better to play second fiddle in the NRL than second fiddle to Steve Simms the world's greatest coaching guru?
As to Manly so you lot suggest it was all a big conspiracy, that Parish new Des Hassler was going to get sacked weeks ago and had it all tied up, before he came bag to the Salford Circus??
Can all these anti Parish people hand on heart say that they have never looked for a job whilst being employed?
It just shows all the prats last week saying he wouldn't get a job are well .... prats. Cream rises to the top as they say, I bet Simms doesn't walk into a job in the NRL if he's ever sacked from Salford, even with his ten years of success at our coaching helm!! I would love to know what they guy has on Wilky to still be in a job.'"
Gruffy has Steve Simms or the Chairman or both of them run over your foot in the past?
I thought that Matt Parish was a good appointment although his first meeting with the fans(and prats) did come as a surprise with some of his off the cuff comments aimed at people that most people in the audience recognized.
I was disappointed when he resigned not only because he was leaving but at the reaction of some people who immediately apportioned blame to their favourite targets without full knowledge of what actually happened, and why it happened.
Why has Steve Simms "got to have something"on the Chairman? could it be that the Chairman is happy with the job that he is doing?
I wasn't surprised that he got a job back home, it was on the cards for a while and with hindsight the appointment should never have been made, but hey it's only the fault of you know who.
Some people thought that Matt Parish was a good choice, I did and his initial thoughts on where the problems lay were in tune with fans & prats alike, whilst some other people weren't too happy with him its all about opinions and some of us with different opinions than you may be classed as prats in your eyes but we still have our own views .
I hope that Matt does well in Australia,hopefully he has learn't from his time here and he should put his experience to good use back home.
I thought that a prat was a person who talked or wrote in a childish manner one who babbled on and was full of empty chatter, now where have I seen this type of person's comments?
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| Quote: DogPie "I'm still not understanding how you guys aren't getting it. People bang on about those who defend Parish, yet constantly defend those who are rightly to blame or all this. Firstly, Parish always said he wanted to go back to the NRL. That he has done. Now, the recruitment effort by the club was appauling. Parish was only on the list because the club messed up recruiting the people they actually wanted in the first place. They also wanted a quick appointment to get somebody in before the end of the season which have whoever would take the job very little time to look into the club fully. So he had to trust what he was told. This being that he would be given full charge to build a team. He was also told about our 'amazing' youth set up. So Parish comes over and hits a brick wall with everything he tries to do. Each time he makes a request he's knocked back. Not for financial reasons, but because they want to control everything. If they never intended to allow him this freedom, they should never have told him he could. He was hugely frustrated and each time he protested he got the cold shoulder treatment. That is impossible to work with. The youth setup was also nothing like he was lead to believe. So, let's just say he has the opportunity to go and work in a professional organisation in the NRL rather than the amateur set up at Salford, then who can blame him. The amateurism of the club didn't even tie him down to a contract which says everything about how they do things. I'm no big lover of Parish, but I just wish people would open their eyes and see things for real. Take the blinkers off.'"
Agree with all this.
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| Good Luck Matt Parish.you was only with us for a short time,but you certainly shook the trees in that time.
And look what fell out,since your departure we find certain players,on twitter.Telling us they are glad you have gone,
but we all no who they are the ones your were trying to flirt.We know Vievers is now in charge<Good Luck to him>. And your good friend Steve telling any one who will listen,that we have moved on and we are a close knit club,but I don't think any ones listens to him except certain board members and a few supporters.Any way good luck at Manley, and in any future coaching roles, as I have said your were only with us for a short time.But It the end It boils down to the
fact, that you came half way round the world to tell us,what we already new.
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