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| The more things change the more they stay the same.
It's beginning to remind me of rl2006rl
One or two names change but rlRoyal Ascot - Brian Noble - Transfer Fees -rl
rlSalary Cap Breachrl
For the cherry on the top of the cake - rlCastleford Upsetrl
The only deja vu I would like is a second half performance by the players for 2013
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| Quote: Early Bath "Detoriman - you are as deluded as Red League. Please understand the money for the fee goes INTO the game and not into the pockets of the players. The transfer market is DEAD. Deceased. No more. Its manna from heaven for Cas like it was for us when Myler went to Warrington & Smith to Wigan. He can come for nothing when his contract is up.'"
Yes, but as has been pointed out, the money Rangi generates for the club through attendances and sponsorship means over the next two years could be in excess of the transfer fee offered. In which case, it makes sense to keep him and let him leave for nothing in 2 years! Meanwhile, we can spend time trying to persuade him to sign an extended deal.
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| The Cas board are in a real tough situation.They need to get Chases wages of their wage bill but they also need to keep their loyal fans happy.Its very difficult for any sporting organisation to keep a player who for whatever reason no longer wants to be there.In Chases case its probably because of the wages he will earn at Salford.I have no doubt he loves Cas and would,given the same sort of wages,would opt to stay at Cas.Everyone knows how short a career RL can be so obviously Chase has to maximise his earnings now.
For the Cas board to keep their fans happy or at least accept the situation as inevitable then they have to really negotiate an amazing financial deal for their club and who can blame them for doing that.
I would be amazed if the final deal wasnt over or around the 250K mark.Thats making the presumption the deal even happens.Anything less than that would not go down well with the Cas fans and in all honesty i wouldnt blame them at all.
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| £200k to £250k but I could see Cas accepting £200000 as that's with chase's wages around £380000 they would save and have to play with next year.
Early Bath, Koukash isn't John Wilkinson (not a tight ar$e) he has a lot of resources, and he knows Chase would be a big crowd puller for Salford too, i know we offered 100k for a forward who isn't even at the top of the rankings in the game. Chase is block buster and is easily worth double Elliot whitehead. He's starting at £60k to
Stop stupid over the top offers being layed down early on.
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| Quote: nottinghamtiger "Quote: nottinghamtiger "Detoriman - you are as deluded as Red League. Please understand the money for the fee goes INTO the game and not into the pockets of the players. The transfer market is DEAD. Deceased. No more. Its manna from heaven for Cas like it was for us when Myler went to Warrington & Smith to Wigan. He can come for nothing when his contract is up.'"
Yes, but as has been pointed out, the money Rangi generates for the club through attendances and sponsorship means over the next two years could be in excess of the transfer fee offered. In which case, it makes sense to keep him and let him leave for nothing in 2 years! Meanwhile, we can spend time trying to persuade him to sign an extended deal.'"
Fair point Nottingham. As for Salford I really feel the transfer fee limit should be about £100k. Just think that a `Golden Hello`of £150k for the likes of a Greg Inglis would be far better business.
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| Quote: RED LEAGUE "£200k to £250k but I could see Cas accepting £200000 as that's with chase's wages around £380000 they would save and have to play with next year.
Early Bath, Koukash isn't John Wilkinson (not a tight ar$e) he has a lot of resources, and he knows Chase would be a big crowd puller for Salford too, i know we offered 100k for a forward who isn't even at the top of the rankings in the game. Chase is block buster and is easily worth double Elliot whitehead. He's starting at £60k to
Stop stupid over the top offers being layed down early on.'"
The good Chairman hasnt made his money by negotiating poor deals.
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| Quote: Early Bath "The good Chairman hasnt made his money by negotiating poor deals.'"
And you don't win trophies by being cheap. We had a cheap skate running the club for 30 years and it all but put us boarder line with championship clubs in comparison with fan base and attraction, if Dr Koukash wants us up their we have to compete with the top sides, for gods sake Warrington bought and unproven (at the time) you lad from us for £250000 and you expect us to land the 2nd best player in super league for £100000, don't make me laugh.
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| Quote: JobsForTheWives "The Cas board are in a real tough situation.They need to get Chases wages of their wage bill but they also need to keep their loyal fans happy.Its very difficult for any sporting organisation to keep a player who for whatever reason no longer wants to be there.In Chases case its probably because of the wages he will earn at Salford.I have no doubt he loves Cas and would,given the same sort of wages,would opt to stay at Cas.'"
Firstly, Cas don't need to get Chase's wages off the wage bill. He is our only 'big' earner (other then Shenton but even he isn't near the salary that Chase is on).
Secondly, Chase may be offered a contract by Salford that is lower than his current one at Cas! Cas can afford to pay Chase a massive salary and stay under the salary cap because we have no other big earners! If Koukash intends to bring in a team of high-quality players (which I believe he does) then he cannot spunk such as massive wage on one player as you'll end up with poor players in other areas (or a squad of 10 players!)
As much as I think Rangi is a great player, he is not worth compromising the possibility of building an all-round team.
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| Can anyone confirm the source of the 60k offer? The radio reports and news websites I've read make no mention of the amount offered.
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| Quote: red eyes "Is the great Charlie Caroli any relation of yours.'"
? Don't follow sorry!
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| Quote: RED LEAGUE "and you expect us to land the 2nd best player in super league for £100000, '"
Yes I do. See my point re a Golden Hello for a Top Aussie/New Zealander. Plenty of fish in the sea.
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| I wonder who Cas' bankers are, whether Cas have an overdraft and how their bankers view the prospect of a significant reduction in that overdraft (if indeed they have one - any accountants on here seen the last published figures?)
To me, if I were negotiating then the crucial point is that Cas own a depreciating asset. Yes, Rangi Chase is good, undeniable, is he the single factor that will turn Salford's fortunes around? I don't think so, he's another pawn on the board, will it be a disaster if we don't sign him? No, of course not.
So I'd say the ball is firmly in Cas' court - somewhere there's a deal, I wonder if the parties will find out just where?
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| Quote: nottinghamtiger "Firstly, Cas don't need to get Chase's wages off the wage bill.'" That's not what I heard from someone that knows Ian Millward. I heard that Jack Fulton is having to bail you out of the brown stuff month after month.
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| We have been losing about 300k a year. Which is a lot less than most clubs.
Mr Millward is a big part of the problem.
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| Quote: Wirecutter "That's not what I heard from someone that knows Ian Millward. I heard that Jack Fulton is having to bail you out of the brown stuff month after month.'"
Sorry, but you are believing something you have heard second-hand that is meant to have come from a coach we sacked!!!!
If we can't afford Chase's wages we would have accepted any offer for him!
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