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Quote: FataSini "Is it 8pm kick off tonight?'"


Yes it is.

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Some people are indicating that this is not a `must win game` which in some respect is true, however if we are to motivate the fans, get a top 4 spot and really make a statement to the rest of the teams in superleague, then these are the games we should win and really need to win in order to make positive steps forward etc. This is a massive game, as are all the others as consistency is the way forward. In reality the only poor game, was obviously the Saints game, but things are looking up. It`s never easy going to Cas and as there win against Wigan shows, tonights game will not be easy. We then have some tough games coming up over Easter weekend, so hopefully we can win tonight and go for a top 4 spot. COME ON YOU REDS.

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I'm following the match on Twitter tonight. I was wondering if there has been a long stoppage because the Wheeldon try just before half-time was scored 47 minutes after Salford Red Devils posted that the game had started. I also noticed the Leeds v Wigan game started several minutes after and finished for half-time 2-3 minutes before despite having video replays.
A long stoppage would explain it but I'm just curious because we lost their last year to an 88th minute try.

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same old story build some momentum then don't turn up another 30 points conceded will end up 50 no doubt. Marwan will spit his dummy and Harris will be gone after Easter.

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Quote: redmanc "same old story build some momentum then don't turn up another 30 points conceded will end up 50 no doubt. Marwan will spit his dummy and Harris will be gone after Easter.'"


I've said all along ill accept getting beat tonight aslong as its not a wash out and we beat Widnes on sky.

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Quote: Michigan red "This news makes the game much more winnable.

Yep it really helped didn't it ?

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I can also accept defeat but if we're going to make the 8 we need to eradicate all the errors and poor discipline when put under pressure. The one thing that's surprised me so far this year is our weak defence. Last year Harris made noticeable improvements in this area but for some reason we have gone backwards. I would never have expected us to have the worse defence in Superleague after 6 rounds. Anyway it's history now and it's not my problem, let's see what Thursday brings?

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11 years and counting?

Like the look of fages and evalds , your forwards were chip shop. Only really got in our territory via pens, we won the arm wrestle, thus dictated play, far better around the ruck. Rangi huffed and puffed (sideways a lot). Dobson offered little.

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Quote: theredshed "I can also accept defeat but if we're going to make the 8 we need to eradicate all the errors and poor discipline when put under pressure. The one thing that's surprised me so far this year is our weak defence. Last year Harris made noticeable improvements in this area but for some reason we have gone backwards. I would never have expected us to have the worse defence in Superleague after 6 rounds. Anyway it's history now and it's not my problem, let's see what Thursday brings?'"


You're right there mate, the defence seems ok until you are defending in the red zone and then panic seems to set in and there seems to be a lack of communication between some of the players. What is your opinion of Dobbo, Its a bit late for me to say it but I thought he would disappoint this time over here and he still hasn't done any thing to prove me wrong. Didn't think I'd be able to make it tonight but glad I did. Thanks to all of you that came over and hope we can repay that at your place. Did any of you stay back for the rendition of "Sweet Caroline? Its been another great idea of our CEO Steve Gill. Just wondered if you have any thing similar and if you had any ideas what would be a good victory song for you as it really adds to the after match atmosphere

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Quote: Michigan red "I wonder which one (if not both) of Chase and Hauraki will get sin binned'"


You got tonights lottery numbers too?

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What is your opinion of Dobbo, Its a bit late for me to say it but I thought he would disappoint this time over here and he still hasn't done any thing to prove me wrong. '"


Dobson didn't play many top flight NRL games last year and then he got the injury. He didn't have a proper pre season because of the injury and then he picked up another injury in our second game. Personally I fully expect him to improve significantly with a few more games under his belt but we are going to have to be patient.

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Quote: Marshy1 "Yep it really helped didn't it ?'"


Shenton played.

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It's not quite panic stations just yet. Sure, it's frustrating but we're about where I thought we would be before the season started. In fact, table wise, we're higher up than I thought we'd be.

However, I've started to get the feeling that something needs to give for the team to move forward. We have the personnel on the field to be performing way better than we are, and our consistency issues are just as fragmented as ever. There is something not right with the mental attitude, or the instilling of a proper mental attitude. We also seem to be off the pace fitness wise, which also is having an effect on injuries received. This to me points at problems in the backroom staff. Maybe it's Harris not being experienced enough, or the wrong people in the job. Maybe it's not enough people in the jobs required, or too many. I don't know. There's plainly something wrong with our off-field preparation regardless. As there's simply no reason why this group of players should be under-performing, defending so badly, and giving away far too many penalties. Too me, it points at poor fitness, poor training, and poor drills. That's the job of the coaching staff and they are currently failing in their job description.

I know it's ultimately down to the players, but they require the very best input off the field to give them the very best chance to succeed on it. To me, they are not being provided with the right tools and preparation to fulfill their end of the bargain. They try, and they are certainly not shy of talent, but that is simply not enough to succeed these days.

I'm not saying that Harris should go. Not yet anyway. But the responsibility ultimately lies on his shoulders and he needs to work really hard and have a long hard think about methods and attitudes to put right the wrongs that the team are turning into habits at the moment. Stamp out the penalties, and tighten the defense sooner rather than later, and he gives the Club a good chance. Let these bad habits fester, and I can see him out of the job sooner rather than later.

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Quote: TheButcher "It's not quite panic stations just yet. Sure, it's frustrating but we're about where I thought we would be before the season started. In fact, table wise, we're higher up than I thought we'd be.'"


We were saying something similar last night. If you look at the results in black and white we're probably ahead of what I expected due to the draw in France, however, it's the performances that are a concern.

Last night felt much more convincing than a 14 point defeat - with 25 minutes to go we looked like we'd already decided the game was lost and were just going through the motions. Cas displayed more urgency throughout and in the last 15 minutes looked more like the team chasing the game.

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Quote: Iain "We were saying something similar last night. If you look at the results in black and white we're probably ahead of what I expected due to the draw in France, however, it's the performances that are a concern.

Last night felt much more convincing than a 14 point defeat - with 25 minutes to go we looked like we'd already decided the game was lost and were just going through the motions. Cas displayed more urgency throughout and in the last 15 minutes looked more like the team chasing the game.'"


I feel the same.

We've been fortunate so far with our wins, they were certainly not convincing enough to say we bossed and played our best. Results around us have also been fortunate for us, and has given us an elevated sense of importance at the moment. If we are still in the top six after the next six games I'd be very surprised. We've been far from the real deal performance wise, and it's this rather than results which concerns me also.

We're constantly told how good prep, and winning become habit for good teams, I'm concerned that our current failings are also become habitual and will be difficult to shake off if we don't start to gel cohesively as a unit very soon.

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