Possibly one of the best posts I've read on this forum for a long time!

Great post.

I don't buy players not giving it their all regardless of them not being offered new contracts. Let's be honest these players are in the shop window and if we don't offer them a deal who else will in Superleague? This was a great opportunity on Sky tonight for these out of contract players to shine and show they were worth taking a gamble on. After tonight some would be lucky to get a gigg in the Championship.

how about this one. You're 'RICH BUT RUBBISH'....BOOM BOOM (Basil Brush style)

Huddersfield's home attendances are currently 22.59% down on last season and they are only averaging 6,268 per game compared to averaging 8,097 last season for the same home fixtures. It's a scary thought, but how poor would their attendances be if if the team were struggling near the bottom of SL?

So much for flogging cheap season tickets in previous years.

This is true - but pretty much every team in Super League is down - I know we are, by 1 or 2K as an average. That is more a sign of the times than anything.

But, my point was, Salford can't hope to become a top team with 2K home attendances most weeks. You need to get that up to 7 or 8K, and you need to think about ways of doing that. And, we weren't a top team when we moved to the new stadium, we were still finishing an average of 8th, but we really sold the concept of the new stadium, a new era, and despite not winning anything for 5 years, we went from 6K average to 11K.

I just don't think massively discounted season tickets are the way forward. Fans get used to paying a cheap price and abandon ship very quickly when suddenly faced with a huge increase in season ticket prices. It doesn't work long term at increasing the paying supporter base.

Huddersfield sold some adult season tickets last season for £50 and others at around £100 but I doubt many of those new punters who took up those offers last season were willing to pay £200 this season. Same at Bradford... they sold £60 season tickets and their average is now down from around 14K a couple of seasons ago to 9k this season. It remains to be seen what happens at Wakefield when they start charging higher prices for season tickets again. They are another club who have increased home attendances by 2k to 3k per game on the back of selling £125 adult season tickets, £50 for 16 to 21 year old's and £25 for juniors. They'll be back down to averaging around 5k IMO once the massively discounted season ticket offers are removed.

Surely having double the people in the ground paying a reduced fee from this year would create a better atmosphere, greater additional sales and make the club & match pay a more promotable commodity.

Think if the Doc got his way to get a stake in the stadium things like match day sales would become as important as ticket prices.

No. The problem is that,if free tickets are on the cards,people who would normally pay will naturally look to watch the game for nowt.
Free tickets are not the way forward,a winning team is but that could be a while coming !

All but one of those (please whichever idol you worship not Morley) would do nicely, Plum is a beast in the tackle, Sau is the type of centre I'd love to to see inside Williams/Broughton, Clarke is the future England/GB hooker, Steph as he is just class in so many different ways and I think personally we miss Sidlow as much as any of the players we lost at the end of last season.

With the Plum, Sau & Clarke bit I'd love to know if they are some of the names to be released come 09.08 - non would disappoint me.

No one expected us to compete with Wire this season. However, a game against Wakefield is one we should be competing in, if not winning.

Disgraceful performance last night. Can't blame Noble or Koukash - blame the spineless f*ckers on the pitch who couldn't be bothered. So much for professionalism and any sort of pride in the shirt. That has nothing to do with unrealistic expectations, I can handle us not being good enough, I can't handle us not bloody trying, though.

i said morley so your team would have some experience and he would bring a high level of professionalism with him, he can also still do a bit of a run out so i would still use him. But i am glad you agree with the majority, personally i think these players are very realistic and should be the names your owner keeps dropping to the media;

Plum: off contract
Sau: cant get a game in the NRL (you would have to check to see if he had any convictions)
clarke: is still looking for a way out of cas and you lot could probably pay the most.
Ratchy: well i don't know if the rumours are true that he would be happy to go back to salford or not but i do know he had more loyalties to salford than anybody else.
Sidlow: still lives in wigan and i cant imagine he enjoys driving all that way.

IF you managed to add these 5 or similar i think you would a certain for the top 8.

This

Last night was a case of watching a poor quality team play badly. It was dire. I recorded the game but am not sure that I can bring myself to watch any of it again. There was a definite lack of passion from the team last night. The longer the game went on the more confident Wakefield became and the more depressing it became to watch. It's a good job the published attendance figure is not the number of spectators left when the hooter went.

I don't think the Fans' Bar has ever been so empty after a game either.

I have seen some poor performances over many years and last night has got to be there with the worst of them.

I know we lack quality and have lacked it all season, but when Alan Hunte was in charge I felt we tried to play a more expansive game that featured youngsters and was more worth watching. Brian Noble appears to have put his faith in Ryan McGoldrick and for the life of me I cannot see what he brings to the team. I also think we discovered that Lee Gaskell is not a full back.

It will be very interesting to see the team sheet for the St Helens game.