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Early bath this move by the crusaders must be seen as a move to keep celtic going in superleague @ all costs, or is it just me ?
The rfl need to expand the game so keeping quins n celtic going is important, the product (rugby league / super league) will lose some of its punch when trying to attract new sponsors / new fans if eather go under / lose their franchise, that is why both will make the cut and wakey or /and cas wont.
Dont get me wrong this guy from wakefield paying their debts has given the rfl a headake but im sure they will nail then for somthing else.
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Wasn't the reason given for Widnes' failed bid the fact that they had gone bust ?
Celtic/Crusaders will now have had this happen twice.
Added to the fact that they have upped sticks so essentially this is a brand new franchise.
If they put in new Rules for them I would expect a Legal challenge from whoever is booted out and I would also expect Widnes could justifiably claim as well.
Another FU by the RFL
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Is it only me that thinks the RFL will move the goalposts in a massive way and increase the size of the league to prevent any fallout from this latest booboo.
Can't see any other way around it myself if they want to keep both London and the Crusaders in the league and promote a team from a lower division.
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I heard a rumour that there was to be 2 teams in next year, there was huge opposition to this so it was scrapped
This Crusaders issue has therefore come at a very opportune time for the RFL.
Keep them in so keeping up the pretence of expansionism, allow in a Championship team and no one is booted out.
15 team league with a rest week every couple of weeks to compensate for the odd number of teams.
That keeps everyone happy for another 3 years till the circus starts again.
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I sent the following mail to the RFL and mr Blake Solly yesterday and surprise surprise, they have forgotten to answer. If anyone else would like to have a go at emailing red hall, the addresses are........... reception@rfl.uk.com and blake.solly@rfl.uk.com.
Blake Solly is the compliance officer at the RFL and should be in a position to answer your emails
good luck
With the news that the Crusaders are going into admin. and a new company is to be formed, does that company have a franchise for next season and which well run club will be stuffed by the RFL at the next round of franchises to make room for this poor business model. If I were the chairman of one of the 'less favoured ' clubs I would already have solicitors looking at this matter.
Even the RFL cant say that this is 'openness and fairness' in practise.
For the sake of the game get rid of these leeching clubs (crus and quins) and lets get back to being a real sport with promotion and relegation.
As the situation has moved on and the crusaders are looking at reforming as a new company, will they have a franchise for next season ? If so, could you please explain the ruling on that one, because Widnes were not allowed into Superleague because they went into administration. Will the new company have to apply for a franchise at the next round or will they be assured of a place at the top table as the previous crusaders were ?
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I sent the following mail to the RFL and mr Blake Solly yesterday and surprise surprise, they have forgotten to answer. If anyone else would like to have a go at emailing red hall, the addresses are........... reception@rfl.uk.com and blake.solly@rfl.uk.com.
Blake Solly is the compliance officer at the RFL and should be in a position to answer your emails
good luck
With the news that the Crusaders are going into admin. and a new company is to be formed, does that company have a franchise for next season and which well run club will be stuffed by the RFL at the next round of franchises to make room for this poor business model. If I were the chairman of one of the 'less favoured ' clubs I would already have solicitors looking at this matter.
Even the RFL cant say that this is 'openness and fairness' in practise.
For the sake of the game get rid of these leeching clubs (crus and quins) and lets get back to being a real sport with promotion and relegation.
As the situation has moved on and the crusaders are looking at reforming as a new company, will they have a franchise for next season ? If so, could you please explain the ruling on that one, because Widnes were not allowed into Superleague because they went into administration. Will the new company have to apply for a franchise at the next round or will they be assured of a place at the top table as the previous crusaders were ?
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| There's a Mr Solly at the RFL? Love it  we must be nailed on for another franchise.
I agree with the calls for a 15 team league. I think 2 bye weeks per season for each team give a chance for players to recover from injures and should enhance the quality of the competition. It also give two windows in the season where fans know they can book holidays without missing games. |
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| Quote: Iain "There's a Mr Solly at the RFL? Love it ![]()
Good idea matey! 
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| Quote: Iain "There's a Mr Solly at the RFL? Love it ![]()
I like it, although there will be the inevitable debate of whether there is enough talent to stretch across 15 teams.
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| Quote: beezer "www.walesonline.co.uk/sports/sports-news-round-up/2010/11/04/rugby-league-welsh-crusaders-to-ride-from-crusaders-ashes-91466-27596732/
seems they escape again...'"
Absolutely staggering if true - presumable Widnes won't rock the boat as they expect to get a franchise, but I wonder if anyone else might feel the need to consult m'learned friends ?
Though the latest on the Crusaders official site says the whole thing is a mistake and HMRC will be withdrawing the order
rlhttps://www.crusadersrfl.com/article.php?id
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| Quote: BartonFlyer "Absolutely staggering if true - presumable Widnes won't rock the boat as they expect to get a franchise, but I wonder if anyone else might feel the need to consult m'learned friends ?
Though the latest on the Crusaders official site says the whole thing is a mistake and HMRC will be withdrawing the order
rlhttps://www.crusadersrfl.com/article.php?id'"
They would wouldnt they, at the same time as taking the RFL for every penny they can .................................. all in the name of expansion
you couldnt make this up |
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| Quote: ambernotyeller "They would wouldnt they, at the same time as taking the RFL for every penny they can .................................. all in the name of expansion
you couldnt make this up'"
You surely couldn't!!
And now the worst kept secret comes true - Nobby quits
rlhttps://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_league/super_league/celtic_crusaders/9109417.stmrl |
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gone into administration
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How on earth have they been able to recruit new playing staff this week??
I've been a great exponant of a Welsh franchise but think this now has become a joke that unless dealt with properlly by the RFL will cause no end of embaressment (not to mention legal difficulties) when the next round of franchises are announced.
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| Quote: Michigan red "How on earth have they been able to recruit new playing staff this week??
I've been a great exponant of a Welsh franchise but think this now has become a joke that unless dealt with properlly by the RFL will cause no end of embaressment (not to mention legal difficulties) when the next round of franchises are announced.'"
As I keep pointing out, Crusaders say the move to Wrexham was better than they expected, well how many turned up when they had to pay? Such as when they played us and we took a large following, in game they could have seen as crusaders winning,which their fans should have turned up to. |
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