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| Quote: Dantes Inferno "I take it your female. You act like one.'"
I'm glad you see my feminine side shining through
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| Quote: Dantes Inferno "I take it your female. You act like one.'"
Similar logic would make you a bellend.
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| Quote: Bigpev "Black cat where is my apology?
It was universal but you can have your very own here Pev! Hope my credibility is now restored.
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Club Owner | 6292 | No Team Selected |
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| Quote: The Black Cat "Hope my credibility is now restored.'"
You, credibility?
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| Quote: Dantes Inferno "Regardless of whether JW puts his hands in his pockets or not, it still proves the club is'nt being run right either way. I think we could all say as supporters to which im accused of not being , (because i question the chairmans proffessionalism) HOW DARE I, if we were as well off as the chairman we would do exactly the same. But say for instance JW decided not to invest anymore and we did a swinton , oldham, halifax like you all keep reminding me what would happen. The chairmans legacy would read 29 years in charge and ran the club into administration. You JW a55lickers would still find a positive in his reign. blinkered or what.'"
You've been saying the same thing for nearly a week now. I think it's got to the stage where your arguing with yourself.
It can be safely established that we all agree the chairman (and Co) has'nt run the club very well, or as well as we would have liked to now see the club be competetive week in week out....that ISNT the argument or the point.
THE POINT IS THIS....Without that man and his passion (passion not professionalism) for the club any other man in his position would have pulled out and put it down as a lost business venture. Simple.
Were not disagreeing that his "professionalism" of running a RL club isnt up too much, and were not using it as an excuse, the point is had he not kept the club afloat we could now be sitting in the middle of a lower division were the club may not be in as much debt.
I hope you understand that, I'm getting sick of coming on here seeing this thread at the top, only to see you make the same point over and over.
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| do the lifeline draw but do more than just pay £180 a year because that gets you Swinton, Rochdale or Oldham.
Seems to me you are already in the same boat apart from a piece of paper with a franchise on it.
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| Quote: Marshy1 "
Seems to me you are already in the same boat apart from a piece of paper with a franchise on it.'"
Swinton have basically got a 2 year championship franchise as there is no relegation next season.
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| Quote: Lyrad Red "You've been saying the same thing for nearly a week now. I think it's got to the stage where your arguing with yourself.
It can be safely established that we all agree the chairman (and Co) has'nt run the club very well, or as well as we would have liked to now see the club be competetive week in week out....that ISNT the argument or the point.
THE POINT IS THIS....Without that man and his passion (passion not professionalism) for the club any other man in his position would have pulled out and put it down as a lost business venture. Simple.
Were not disagreeing that his "professionalism" of running a RL club isnt up too much, and were not using it as an excuse, the point is had he not kept the club afloat we could now be sitting in the middle of a lower division were the club may not be in as much debt.
I hope you understand that, I'm getting sick of coming on here seeing this thread at the top, only to see you make the same point over and over.'"
For goodness sake, stop mentioning if it was'nt for JW we would be elsewhere. We would never know. We could say the same thing about other chairman in superleague. If it was'nt for him we'd be here or there. SO WHAT HE.S KEPT US AFLOAT WOW. Talk about putting the same point across LOOK AT YOURSELVES.
As for your other point regarding passion. So because he is passionate we cannot question his runnings of the club. Give me a break its amateur, and we deserve to be where we are.
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| Quote: Karlos13 "Swinton have basically got a 2 year championship franchise as there is no relegation next season.'"
I agree with you.It's the stupidity of the RL.
In my opinion your playing standard should dictate which League you are in at least it makes for an interesting season that way.
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| Quote: Dantes Inferno "For goodness sake, stop mentioning if it was'nt for JW we would be elsewhere. We would never know. We could say the same thing about other chairman in superleague. If it was'nt for him we'd be here or there. SO WHAT HE.S KEPT US AFLOAT WOW. Talk about putting the same point across LOOK AT YOURSELVES.
As for your other point regarding passion. So because he is passionate we cannot question his runnings of the club. Give me a break its amateur, and we deserve to be where we are.'"
It's not a matter of mentioning it. It's a matter of helping you understand the situation, which you still clearly don't. You need to understand that were not defending JW's running of the club. Not for one minute am I saying you can't question that, and perhap's if it had not been mismanaged we may not find ourselves in the position were in today. I'm simply pointing out that without this very man and his cash the club would have entered into administration. That isn't an "if or a "but" it's a fact. The club is losing money, he does not have to put his hand in his own pocket to keep it afloat, and that goes for the rest of the board. Could they not afford nor wish to put anymore money into the club then we would announce insolvency and enter into administration and possibly forfeit our position in SL. With that being said and as I've mentioned before had money not been ploughed into the club in 07/08 (when our debt spiralled) then Widnes would have scraped it over ourselves.
"So what he's kept us afloat!" - exactly what planet are your from. That's a pretty big factor were having a club to support is concerned.... I can't believe I'm having to retort to such a low form of intelligence and such narrow minded comment's.
I refer to your earlier comment's
"Yeah the chairman may of put is hand in his own pocket on a few occasions but what salford fan would'nt in his position" This is what is referred to as passion - the very thing you think has no bearing on the club has kept it "afloat" had he followed his head and not his heart he wouldn't have put money into a losing business and as mentioned we would have become insolvent....got it ?
No one is going to step in and replace him unlessHaha, how misguided are you, that's exactly what he's doing, but you actually contradict your first comment here - one minute he puts he hand in his pocket, the next he's making a profit - which one is it ?
As referred to earlier - you say you have no vendetta, however comments like that say different - JW has a hidden agenda? What would that be? to lose money at SCR's
I hope this finally get's through what appear's to be a 6 inch thick skull. It really isn't that hard to comprehend, and just before you go off on one please try and grasp the fact that WE AGREE the club should have been managed better especially by JW and that just because he's put his hand in his pocket it doesn't exclude him from CONSTRUCTIVE criticism however before you call for him to be replaced or leave SCR's please RE-READ the above, again...and again,,,
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| [iI hope this finally get's through what appear's to be a 6 inch thick skull. It really isn't that hard to comprehend, and just before you go off on one please try and grasp the fact that WE AGREE the club should have been managed better especially by JW and that just because he's put his hand in his pocket it doesn't exclude him from CONSTRUCTIVE criticism however before you call for him to be replaced or leave SCR's please RE-READ the above, again...and again,,,[/i
Amen
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| 17 pages (so far) to clarify that the directors aren't money grabbing fat-cats dredging the copious riches of the club. It beggars belief.
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| But what did he do with the Myler money......
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| Quote: EX.SALF.UNI "17 pages (so far) to clarify that the directors aren't money grabbing fat-cats dredging the copious riches of the club. It beggars belief.'"
It really is hard to believe, and it just shows how some people's imaginations work overtime.
They're obviously looking for someone to blame when things don't live up to there expectations, but for the like's of Dantes Inferno to believe so strongly that JW is taking home a tidy profit and has a hidden agenda just depicts the low average intelligence of society today. People need to go back to school. Learn how to READ & construct a sentence, and actually THINK about what they're saying, while trying to absorb some common sense were possible, because it's that sort of attitude and opinion which is dragging society and SCR down.
A little melodramatic perhaps, however, not far from the truth.
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| Lyrad Red you talk utter drivel. Who the do you think you are. You revert to condescending and insulting remarks. I respect the chairmans passion, personality. Just not his proffessiomalism as agreed. So whats your argument with me . I'll say it again because i don't seem to be getting through to you. If he ran the club with his head not his heart he would'nt have to revert to his pocket would he, Vendetta my im just a salford fan questioning the pathetic running of the club, We need change now, because in 3 years time when the franchises are reviewed it'll bye bye salford hello manchester.
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