Your trying to convince yourself he won't be, you have no idea what will happen your just speculating as usual, an option to sign isn't a open sale at all, an option to sign is an add on deal, other wise why bother mentioning it at all in the first place? Why would koukash respond to opposition fans who are saying he's only on loan with we have an option to make the deal permanent if really we haven't he just wouldn't come out with it.

He'd say everyone has the option to sign him on a permanent basis wouldn't he if that was the case.

Here's the full story. Not in bullet point. Correct pictures as well. Such an improvement. www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/ ... n-10381992

Here's the full story. Not in bullet point. Correct pictures as well. Such an improvement. www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/ ... n-10381992

My understanding is that there is no 'agreed fee' for Carney. The deal is a one-year loan deal with Salford paying 100% of wages.
If Salford want to sign Carney permanently they have apparently been told that he is available for no fee. However, Carney himself has to agree to the move which he is unwilling to at the moment, he would rather wait to see if there is any other interest for 2017.

A pretty hateful topic from our faux fan.
We can all read.
It's An astute bit business.
NO Parties get tied up. We get a good winger.
Other than wages no daft transfer fees or contracts to be broken,
He gets to be in the shop window to secure a deal back in the nrl if he plays well,

He's a very good player and I'm glad to see him here and as people have said the deal seems to work for all parties.

My only reservation is, with Taylor we knew he was only here for 12 months but being a prop there was a number of slots available in the match day squad.

Obviously wingers there are only two, so unless we're offloading someone this will cause unrest and alienate the player being left out especially if he's only going to be here for a year.
We talk about building consistency if we let for example BJB go, then Carney leaves were back to square one.

To be honest, I cannot fathom out whywe are discussing this. Every player could leave at the end of next season. For some we will get a fee, for some we won't. Unless the world changed since I went to bed, we cannot introduce slavery or serfdom at Salford Red Devils.
So, unless Mario has some story of a player revolt to happen, say, at Easter, I don't care. I may not be alive for the 2017 season. ISIL may have taken over Peel Holdings. We could have another financial crash, putting Sky's funding in default. I may win more than £10 on the lottery.
Concentrating on 2015 and 2016.

Mario: plus ça change, plus c’est la même chose, as Barton Flyer says.

Apologies didn't realise this was a forum, I'll keep quiet in future.

Loan deal makes sense for all parties involved; Salford don't have to pay a transfer fee for a player with 4 years left on a lucrative contract and aren't stuck with a player for x amount of years if it doesn't work out, Castleford don't have to pay Carney anything for releasing him from said contract and Carney has 12 months to decide whether or not Salford is the right place for him to spend the next few seasons of his career. Given the off-field dramas we had last season, who can blame players for not taking up contracts longer than 12 months.

All that matters is we've got one of the best wingers in the competition in our team next season.

You cutting and pasting my comments, JGR?
Loan deal probably suits all. We don't have to stump-up a considerable fee, Cas gets shut of a problem. Carney has a good season/settles it may give us an option to buy at the end of next season. If he doesn't settle or plays awful he moves on or goes back to Cas.

Nobody loses out really.

It gives all parties 12 months to see where everyone's at.'"

Negatives aside we have a great player in Carney absolute try machine. Trip across to the jungle should be a little spicy...

Wigan were in for Carney and Ryan Hampshire was going to Cas on loan for a year. However with Sam Tomkins injury that loan deal was pulled as Hampshire is now needed next season.

A year is a long time in Rugby League. Carney may love it at Salford with Tim Sheens around. The club may even be more settled without the likes of Chase and Hock. Who knows where he may end up in 2017? One thing is for sure, he is a hell of a winger and would be a success in any team in the comp.

Don't come on here with your positivity and well reasoned comments aboveus, you'll be very lonely

Aspersions are also made of stone in Castleford. Well, pretty much everything actually.