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| Quote: John Gilbert Reds "This is the problem, how many lads before them have been allowed to progress through the amateur ranks to U18’s then become disinterested in the sport and give it up.
Isn’t there a talented centre at Folly who Wigan have signed up recently? Also a lad from Cadishead who Warrington have also either signed or shown interest in. Given the tiny numbers we have in Salford of kids playing RL, it really is scandalous that we allow this to happen.
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The lad who signed for warrington from cadishead, is george. I told the story in the alan hunte thread, i mentioned him to hunte who wasnt interetsed as soon as i mentioned cadishead.
I hoped it would change as soon when he was sacked, but nothing so far to suggest this.
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| Quote: John Gilbert Reds "Isn’t there a talented centre at Folly who Wigan have signed up recently? '"
Yeah Jack Wells, he's actually a back rower. He got Wigan U19's player of the year and is very much on the verge of the first team from all accounts.
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| Only Langworthy and Cadishead have teams at U16's and Cadishead and Bury at U18's from the local area. The amateur game from U16's is really a mess at the moment and has been for a few years. Locally a lot of teams have struggled but it is not all bad as each club has been really working hard below this age group with most local teams having teams at each age group down to U7's.
I know Salford are looking how to improve the local links with clubs and have run a few community club meetings which have been designed to look at how the club can better link with the local teams. In the summer on the back of this, saw an U12's festival and an U8's festival take place with just local teams. I also know from conversations that the club are really keen to get away from the previous way, where local lads have been overlooked and I know they have been visiting local clubs to look at lads at U16's and U15's teams with a view to inviting them to the scholarship. I know a few lads have been recently receiving letters with invites so things do seem to be changing.
The foundation have also been running the new Embed the Pathway program designed to coach any child, either currently playing in the area or not and open to other areas to come down and be involved. This is for school kids Y7-Y9 and has been well attended and very beneficial, with lots of local kids now on the pathway. They have also just completed the first Embed the Pathway coaching seminar where coaches from Cadishead, Folly, Langworthy and Salford were in attendance and each club will in due course become England Rugby League ETP accredited clubs which is a step over a lot of other amateur clubs in the game so in that regard the club are in fact ahead over other areas.
Staff involved at the club do seem to be aware of the stigma that the club has not had good local links for many years but seem keen to work to change this and want to work to better improve the standard and participation in the area. Time will tell of course but the noises coming out of there presently are encouraging.
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| Quote: Ayres Rock "Only Langworthy and Cadishead have teams at U16's and Cadishead and Bury at U18's from the local area. The amateur game from U16's is really a mess at the moment and has been for a few years. Locally a lot of teams have struggled but it is not all bad as each club has been really working hard below this age group with most local teams having teams at each age group down to U7's.
I know Salford are looking how to improve the local links with clubs and have run a few community club meetings which have been designed to look at how the club can better link with the local teams. In the summer on the back of this, saw an U12's festival and an U8's festival take place with just local teams. I also know from conversations that the club are really keen to get away from the previous way, where local lads have been overlooked and I know they have been visiting local clubs to look at lads at U16's and U15's teams with a view to inviting them to the scholarship. I know a few lads have been recently receiving letters with invites so things do seem to be changing.
The foundation have also been running the new Embed the Pathway program designed to coach any child, either currently playing in the area or not and open to other areas to come down and be involved. This is for school kids Y7-Y9 and has been well attended and very beneficial, with lots of local kids now on the pathway. They have also just completed the first Embed the Pathway coaching seminar where coaches from Cadishead, Folly, Langworthy and Salford were in attendance and each club will in due course become England Rugby League ETP accredited clubs which is a step over a lot of other amateur clubs in the game so in that regard the club are in fact ahead over other areas.
Staff involved at the club do seem to be aware of the stigma that the club has not had good local links for many years but seem keen to work to change this and want to work to better improve the standard and participation in the area. Time will tell of course but the noises coming out of there presently are encouraging.'"
I think it's easy for us to point the finger continuously at the areas where the Club falls down. It's helpful in keeping issues fresh and in the minds of the Club as something that the fans would like addressing.
It's also nice to hear that those problems are being addressed at some level for the long term survival of the Club.
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| Let's be real local amateur clubs haven't exactly been a breeding ground for producing the best young talent over the years have they? OK there's been the odd player every few years but it's nothing compared to what other stronger rugby towns have produced.
Personally I can't fault the club for generally looking beyond just Salford for emerging young talent.
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| all of us can probably quote decades where recruitment haven't been logical .
At present the RFL assessed the academy structure as ' basket case ' sorry mis-prunt 'not category 1 status' meaning we won't even be included in the SL reserve/ U19's fixtures. so even if Sheens/Carvell / Gleeson manage to attract talent , they won't be matched against the right opposition to develop and would probably have to be loaned out to get any experience ,
Every other SL club can walk into our local teams and show the parents of these kids glowing reports of the wonderful academy structures.
Other SL clubs are building links with clubs all over the UK, rlSt Helens
we'll have to judge the current coaching staff on how they progress from now , but they should be tapping every resource & link possible for undiscovered talent uk & abroad :-
France
Italy
eastern seaboard USA
Russia
Serbia
Lebanon / Palestine
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| Sad as it sounds i'm desperate to hear news about who we are potentially gonna sign guys, so any genuine news would be great. Ta guys
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| Well I did see Sam Burgess at the Marriott earlier today so you never know
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| That's where England are staying I seen Owen Farrell there
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| I know, was playing golf there and saw them all milling around.
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| Cheers for nothing
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| My mates lad spent 6 years at Langworthy and he said he saw Alan Hunte twice in that time. He's now moved to Folly. And so far has been approached by 3 Wigan scouts and been invited to training at Saints. Nobody from Salford (so far) has,spoken to him. It looks to me as though the scouts need to get out more.
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| I may apply for a scouting job at Salford haha seems no one else can be d doing it at the club
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| Quote: Branny "My mates lad spent 6 years at Langworthy and he said he saw Alan Hunte twice in that time. He's now moved to Folly. And so far has been approached by 3 Wigan scouts and been invited to training at Saints. Nobody from Salford (so far) has,spoken to him. It looks to me as though the scouts need to get out more.'"
Do we even have scouts? If so, does anyone know who they are? Whilst Alan Hunte and now Gareth Carvell should be showing their face around the local amateur games, it shouldn't be their entire responsibility to scout players. This is where closer links with local clubs can help, any player showing promise and there should be a clear pathway for firstly notifying the club, the club sending down a coach/scout, making a judgement on the player and then either signing or continuing to monitor.
I said it before, but given the stark lack of numbers playing RL in Salford its criminal that we're allowing the likes of Wigan, Warrington and Saints to pick up players from our local teams.
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| Salford should be offering to buy ALL local clubs their kit and insurance, for all their teams each and every season' in exchange for the local clubs telling Salford of every promising lad coming through. A small price to pay to make sure no one slips through the net
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